Restraint?
Restraint?
- Subject: Restraint?
- From: Joe Ferguson <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:06:30 -0600
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From: email@hidden
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 10:50:35 EST
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Subject: MOI...etc.
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To: email@hidden
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In a message dated 12/25/02 1:05:38 AM, Louise Dawson writes:
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> I'd like to interrupt this stream of "What have you done for ME
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I could not have put it better myself. I was thinking about this over the
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last couple of weeks and have really exercised a lot of restraint. When I
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read about the majority of you who gripe about Apple and what they do not do
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for the User Group movement and how vendors are cutting back and how you
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cannot get this or that. C'mon!!! I know 4 and 5 year olds who, at this time
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of the year and around their birthdays, show more class and style then that!
Pete are you trolling here? I have been on this list for about a year now
and have seen many constructive solutions discussed on this list. We are the
leaders of our respective MUGS and I think it is presumptuous of you to
think we do not speak on our member's behalf when fair criticism of Apple is
made by inferring that people such as myself that have a different opinion
than yours are childlike.
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Sure it is difficult to do a program without a constant stream of stuff but
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everyone one in a group has a favorite one, two or three programs...let them
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demo what they own. Sure it would be great if every vendor and Apple gave us
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all everything that came out for free...but you know what? It isn't going to
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happen. So develop relationships with vendors, say please and thank you (I
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know - two ancient and archaic words that are not in use in the U.S. today),
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give them reports on your meeting where you highlighted their product, write
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up those product reviews in a timely manner and do not ask for more than what
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will fit on your plate! Yes I know it can seem wonderful to have packages
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arriving everyday especially to members of your group who then think you are
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G-D or someone close to her/him/it but a bit of self-restraint is more than
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called for because you do not ruin it only for yourself, but for the entire
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user group movement as well. It is called business.
The last and only demand/complaint about what Apple doesn't give out for
free was the .Mac accounts which apparently Apple listened to and made
appropriate adjustments. Sometimes someone has to declare that the King has
no clothes. I still maintain that Apple is making a mistake by not allowing
MUGs to distribute updates that are 50+ MB.
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Apple does not have to support us as a User Group member; we who believe in
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the platform have to support them. You don't like it? You don't want to spend
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money? Well go learn UNIX proper or LINUX. They are open source and free. You
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don't like the fact that is the realitiy of OS X. Don't upgrade...and enjoy
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your 1940 Ford as well. But don't go griping that there is no support. You
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want support find a specialist and pay them. Most automobile manufacturers
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have a point where they no longer manufacturer parts for their cars so you
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have to get them custom built or order them from a third-party vendor like
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Whitney's in Chicago. You have a pre G-X machine get in touch with someone
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like the new Newer or Sonnet and buy an upgrade card - but realize they
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will support you, not Apple.
You digress.
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I thought that this was supposed to be a problem solving and sharing list but
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it is rapidly becoming an 80 percent whine cellar about greed (when we cut
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through the garbage). Wake up and let us discuss the important stuff - like
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how to retain members, how to grow the groups, how to do reach outs to the
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community, etc. Enough with the me toos! Someone has a problem we need to
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assume that others do as well. So let's solve it and move on...not drowning
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everyone's mailbox with 10, 20 or 30 of "me too, me too!" Those of you that
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don't have a life and whose contact with this list (and maybe spamming the
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world with a virus hoax warning or joke) and two or three other people
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constitutes your entire world - get a life. Get out and volunteer and spend
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substantially less than 29.35 hours a day on your computer and give those of
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us that get 200, 300 plus pieces of mail not counting SPAM each day a break.
Our MUG is suffering Peter. Suffering badly. We need help just to survive. I
don't think any one on our board of directors or any of our members have any
unreasonable expectations from Apple. We just want to be here next year.
BTW pot calling the kettle black issue. Peter you would have more of a life
if you received some of that 200,300 plus emails by changing some of your
subscriptions to digest format. Like this list for example. I can recommend
a great app for viewing digest mail called Digest Viewer X.
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/5820
Unfortunately this app apparently is not currently available for Download.
Any one that is interested I can send it as an attachment.
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Most of our members do some sort of community service - volunteering at the
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hospital, homeless shelters, etc. I think it is great that Louise's group did
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the toy collection. Well done and when some of us get together later on today
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I'll be the first to lead a toast to you and your group!
This really gets under my skin here and is specifically the comment that
wonders about if you are trolling. I have participated in one AIDS ride and
3 AIDS vaccine rides. I have been working in the health profession with
older adults and the mentally ill for twelve years. Any one else on this
list that works in health care knows that it is a career that involves many
hours of work that is not paid labor.
Point is Peter I do have a life and respect the lives of others. I am on the
board of directors of my MUG for the fun of it. Macs are not my life.
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OK - I had to vent on this. But you know there is a heck of a lot of chaff
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that one has to go through to get to the wheat on this list.
Using 'restraint' prior to flaming a list and people that you do not know is
a misuse of the word restraint.
Sincerely,
Joe Ferguson
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