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Re: .mac is great


  • Subject: Re: .mac is great
  • From: Deborah Shadovitz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:30 -0700

Bottom Line:
No where did you explain how you came to have it. Thus it looks illicit and
thus, people like me wonder. Yes, I question your abilities as a leader if
you fail to tell the story and look like you're privy to cheating. That's
why I asked "what am I missing." I was missing the facts you failed to
provide here - and possibly to the websites, and definitely on your .mac
account.

I'm glad you didn't cheat.
I'm glad you're enjoying Panther. It *is* great!
I hope you'll change your website.
I wonder if Apple knew you'd posted that site there if you'd still have that
account.


On 10/22/03 1:31pm, "Benjamin Stanley" <email@hidden> typed:

> On 22 Oct 2003, at 20:38, Deborah Shadovitz wrote:
>> On 10/21/03 11:57pm, "Benjamin Stanley" <email@hidden> typed:
>>> I posted my Panther box pics yesterday to
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/trilby/PhotoAlbum11.html
>>> and sent an email to macintouch.com, macnn.com and some others.
>>> 15 hours later the page has had 20500 hits thats 22 ish per minute.
>>> I've had over 60 emails via the site from all over the world, and all
>>> of it made possible with .mac.
>>> Thanks Apple for .mac and Panther, it's going to be great!
>>>
>> Isn't this a breach of NDA - and a morals? For one thing, I don't understand
>> how you got this box. According to all I know, it's not being sent to anyone
>> until the evening of the 24th. And if you have it by some questionable means,
>> it's not ok to be bragging about it. I'm on the beta as an author and cannot
>> speak about unadvertised features until the release date and time in our own
>> time zone. It's also standard for a beta to not speak about the details of
>> the beta. I find it curious and rather disturbing that you have this product,
>> that you're showing it off, that you're making it news, and that you're a UG
>> leader. (If you somehow got the product but kept it under your hat, I'd not
>> be bothered.) Benjamin, according to your own group's website, you're under
>> the same release that we are: 8pm Friday Oct 24th. Above, you thank Apple,
>> but your actions are not respectful of Apple. I don't see that as being a
>> good Mac user, nor a good Mac leader. What am I not understanding here?
>
> I posted another message in reply to Bills earlier which hasn't
> appeared yet, but it may echo some of this one. ( I just noticed I sent
> it to Bill rather than the list, it's on the way now.)
>
> Computers Unlimited, one of the 3 distributors of Apple software here
> in the UK has, it seems, made a mistake and shipped out backorders of
> Panther early. I happen to have got mine and am very excited about it.
> I guess many others have also had their copies as CU are a fairly major
> player in the UK distribution of Apple software. In discussion with
> Apple UK's PR today it seems that the boxes should have been marked
> with an embargo date, and in line with this I have remove the pics from
> the site.
>
> I'm not bragging about anything, yeah I'm excited about this all, but
> aren't you? Had there been something with the product to say keep
> sealed until 24th then I would have done so. As a past Apple developer
> and reseller and now UG contact I am well aware of such things as NDAs
> and "morals".
>
> Thanks for questioning my abilities as a UG leader which you do based
> on one message and a lack of understanding of all the facts. It bothers
> me a bit as I work very hard for our group as others on this list
> probably know. I'm even known to set my alarm for 3am so I can join the
> WWB chats in a daze! I don't whine about how hard Apple makes it for us
> groups to work, I get my head down and persist and have always done so.
> Sorry if this sounds harsh, the last paragraph of your email just
> touched a nerve.
>
> So come one guys lets all get excited about this, Panther is here, well
> it will be soon, and it's going to be fun!
>
> Cheers
> B.
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