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  • Subject: Fwd: AUGD: AWUG Site License?
  • From: Jim Foster <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:01:55 -0500

Don sent me a reply offline, perhaps unintentionally, which had some good points so I thought I would comment on them back in the list so everyone gets some benefit from them....

Begin forwarded message:

From: Don Swayze <email@hidden>
Date: February 10, 2006 12:09:37 PM EST (CA)
To: Jim Foster <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: AUGD: AWUG Site License?

Hi Jim.

I am not real clear on what a sight license is? And if you are wanting one for Apple works or iWorks? What is the cost?

Sorry if I was unclear. I was speaking NOT about a site license for the AppleWorks or the iWorks software, but rather a site license form of membership in the AppleWorks User Group. This is available to U.S. based MUG's for $250.00 a year and to Canadian MUG's for $300.00 U.S. a year. There is more info about site license memberships on the AWUG web site, but the main difference between a site license membership versus an individual user membership is that a site license results in any and all AWUG products, like CD software collections, being mailed out to the site license holder during the year. Regular members of AWUG, on the other hand, have the option to order these materials but at added cost beyond their basic membership fees. AWUG indicates that this mailed material can have a value of $900.00 U.S. per year.


In the case of a Mac User Group which buys the site license AWUG membership, my understanding is that it then has the right to distribute the AppleWorks Journal newsletter plus any of the mailed materials to ALL of its members without any of the members having to hold their own individual membership.

Sorry if I left all this unclear in my initial message.

My two cents is:

Apple works does more than iWork does. Spread sheets, data bases, drawings.

iWork is a minimal but good and easy to use, page layout (pages) and Keynote( presentation software)

Apple works can do presentations and word processing. I still see apple including this with new macs like the iMac and ibook (soon to me MacBook probably). This only macs good business sense. Why buy a mac if you have to add software at the personally level?

Well, my concern is that Apple either has stopped or will soon stop supplying AppleWorks as part of the "built-in" software suite it provides on new consumer level Macs. I actually have found some conflicting information on this on Apple's own site as it relates to the new iMac G5. One page, http://www.apple.com/imac/ whatsinside.html , indicates that AppleWorks is NOT included but that a 30-day free trial of iWorks is included, but another page, http:// www.apple.com/imacg5/software.html , indicates that AppleWorks IS included in the "built-in" software. Possibly the discrepancy is that the first link is for the brand new Intel iMac G5 and the second is for the former PPC iMac G5, but in any event my point is just that I don't see Apple continuing to supply AppleWorks as a free component of its new Macs because I think it wants to promote iWorks as a replacement for AppleWorks even though we all know that iWorks is not quite ready yet to take on all of the things that AppleWorks can do.

Apple works should be around for years to come, unless Apple makes iWork do a lot more and includes it for free.

Yes, I agree that AppleWorks may be around for years to come, but I am just saying that it may not be around as free software supplied with new Macs. So I think that, as time goes on, we will see a steady decline in the percentage of our MUG members who will be using AppleWorks simply because it won't be there on newer Mac computers, and I don't think that the decline in AppleWorks users will be replaced entirely by new iWork users because iWork is going to be sold rather than supplied free of charge.

If Pages was sold seperately for less. 39.00 it might get used more. Not many people need to do presentations and they can in Apple works if they want to.

Yes, one thing we might all hope for is that Apple finds over time that their strategy of selling iWorks into a market that was used to getting AppleWorks for free is not going to be successful, and that they will either drastically reduce the cost of iWork, include it as standard equipment in the build of at least some Mac models, drastically increase the functionality of iWork, or all three. IF that occurs, I feel it would enhance the argument for Mac User Groups to consider purchasing a site license for AWUG (or later iWUG) membership.


FYI, I personally buy iWork and will probably continue to do so in future. I think it is a good value for the cost, but I can understand that many other Mac users who have had years of experience using AppleWorks might not share this view.

Don

President of RMMUG, Medford Oregon.

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