AUGD: Re: LION
AUGD: Re: LION
- Subject: AUGD: Re: LION
- From: List Account <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:30:03 +0100
Although you can upgrade from Lion to Snow Leopard with most Macs - including the early 2011 new iMacs - if you try to do it on a new late 2011 Mac mini you lose Thunderbolt connectivity and your speed falls to 25% of pre-upgrade speeds - presumably due to some loss of ability to use more than one core. I know it isn't Lion that's quicker because Snow Leopard runs faster on the early 2011 iMacs than Lion does.
The fact that I can't get a new Mac mini with Snow Leopard has stopped me from buying one. All because of a $29 operating system I can't buy a $1,000+ Mac mini. Crazy really, but then I haven't replaced my four year old iMac at home either because I can't get one with a non-glossy screen.
As far as upgrading from Lion to Snow Leopard (going the other way is surely a downgrade! lol!) is concerned for other machines, I've read of loads of people who have tried Lion and then gone back to Snow Leopard. This isn't just because there's no Rosetta and businesses have legacy apps, but because it's so darn' buggy and unreliable.
I don't know if it's the worst Mac OS ever, but it's certainly as bad as Leopard.
Cheers,
Mac
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> From: "Laura M. Phillips" <email@hidden>
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> I'm wondering if anyone has gone back to snow leopard from Lion? Did you need to go back to leopard first then upgrade to snow leopard. Or did you have to wipe the hard drive and start over?
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> Laura
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> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:07:13 -0400
> From: Michael Shaw <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: AUGD: LION
> To: "Laura M. Phillips" <email@hidden>
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> L: Lion - not impressed. Connectivity is not consistent nor good and Mail
> refuses to work.
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> I have Lion & Snow Leopard on partitions of my iMac & am using Snow Leopard
> exclusively.
>
> I got a refurbished "Early 2011" MacBook Pro on Friday and got on the phone
> to Apple this morning to request 10.6.6 disks for it.
>
> It has Lion installed and came with NO DVDs but since it originally shipped
> with SL, they are sending me the 10.6.6 / 10.6.7 disks.
>
> I have the commercial Leopard & Snow Leopard install disks, but only the
> original DVDs will do a proper install on the MBP.
>
> M
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> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Laura M. Phillips <
> email@hidden> wrote:
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>>
>> I'm wondering if anyone has gone back to snow leopard from Lion? Did you
>> need to go back to leopard first then upgrade to snow leopard. Or did you
>> have to wipe the hard drive and start over?
>>
>> Laura
>> SMMUG Ambassador 
>> http://www.smmug.net/
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> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:21:04 -0700
> From: Tom Kramer <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: AUGD: LION
> To: Michael Shaw <email@hidden>
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> You can wipe your drive and do a clean install from the Snow Leopard disk, no need to instal Leopard first. Works fine on a MBP though you won't have iLife.
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> T
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Michael Shaw wrote:
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>> L: Lion - not impressed. Connectivity is not consistent nor good and Mail refuses to work.
>>
>> I have Lion & Snow Leopard on partitions of my iMac & am using Snow Leopard exclusively.
>>
>> I got a refurbished "Early 2011" MacBook Pro on Friday and got on the phone to Apple this morning to request 10.6.6 disks for it.
>>
>> It has Lion installed and came with NO DVDs but since it originally shipped with SL, they are sending me the 10.6.6 / 10.6.7 disks.
>>
>> I have the commercial Leopard & Snow Leopard install disks, but only the original DVDs will do a proper install on the MBP.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Laura M. Phillips <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering if anyone has gone back to snow leopard from Lion? Did you need to go back to leopard first then upgrade to snow leopard. Or did you have to wipe the hard drive and start over?
>>
>> Laura
>> SMMUG Ambassador 
>> http://www.smmug.net/
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:40:53 -0400
> From: "Laura M. Phillips" <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: AUGD: LION
> To: Tom Kramer <email@hidden>
> Cc: augd list mailing <email@hidden>
> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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> I'm hoping I can just install SL over lion. I kind of accepted mail in classic mode but still hate it. I hate not being able to work on something and save it as something different without first making a duplicate, both in text edit or preview. Lion is by far the worse OS apple has put out and why they did it I'll never understand. I'm telling everyone I know to NOT upgrade, it will ruin your life.
> Laura
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> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Tom Kramer wrote:
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>> You can wipe your drive and do a clean install from the Snow Leopard disk, no need to instal Leopard first. Works fine on a MBP though you won't have iLife.
>>
>> T
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Michael Shaw wrote:
>>
>>> L: Lion - not impressed. Connectivity is not consistent nor good and Mail refuses to work.
>>>
>>> I have Lion & Snow Leopard on partitions of my iMac & am using Snow Leopard exclusively.
>>>
>>> I got a refurbished "Early 2011" MacBook Pro on Friday and got on the phone to Apple this morning to request 10.6.6 disks for it.
>>>
>>> It has Lion installed and came with NO DVDs but since it originally shipped with SL, they are sending me the 10.6.6 / 10.6.7 disks.
>>>
>>> I have the commercial Leopard & Snow Leopard install disks, but only the original DVDs will do a proper install on the MBP.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Laura M. Phillips <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has gone back to snow leopard from Lion? Did you need to go back to leopard first then upgrade to snow leopard. Or did you have to wipe the hard drive and start over?
>>>
>>> Laura
>>> SMMUG Ambassador 
>>> http://www.smmug.net/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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