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Re: Cocoa downgrade from openstep?
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Re: Cocoa downgrade from openstep?


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa downgrade from openstep?
  • From: "Todd Heberlein" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:09:28 -0700
  • Organization: Net Squared, Inc.

Eric Peyton wrote:
> Erik M. Buck wrote:
>>
>> I don't know how much you use Cocoa, but it is significantly
>> downgraded from Openstep 4.2 in many respects.
>
> Could you elucidate on which classes and what functionality
> functionality has downgraded for you?

Well, this is not an OpenStep issue directly, but the loss of ObjC++ was
a *HUGE* hit for me. I discovered this after buying a new iBook to
start porting all my C++ frameworks from Linux/Solaris to MacOS X. It
took the wind out of my sails.


>I doubt the CoreFoundation has added in any serious
> performance problems, but do you have some concrete
> numbers

I have no idea as to the reason(s) behind the performance issues, but
there is definitely a slower feel to it. My old NeXTstation color
running NEXTSTEP (2.1-3.3) on a 25 MHz (?) 68040 with 16 MB RAM seems
comparable to my new iBook running on a 500 MHz PowerPC G3 with 384 MB
RAM. In fact, a few user-level operations such as re-sizing a window on
10.0.x feel *much* slower. (Note: NEXTSTEP only resized the frame).

With absolutely *no* knowledge <grin>, I just chalked the performance
hit to Apple having to rip out DPS and develop a new imaging model
virtually from scratch.

The performance from the 10.1 demos look great however, and if Apple
brings back ObjC++ at about the same time, I will be a very happy
camper. Now if we could just get some good books for Cocoa ... (yes, I
have Learning Cocoa).

Todd


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