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[Slightly OT] Lost Objectives, WAS:Re: Lost contents!
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[Slightly OT] Lost Objectives, WAS:Re: Lost contents!


  • Subject: [Slightly OT] Lost Objectives, WAS:Re: Lost contents!
  • From: Fatih Erarslan <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:23:20 -0500

On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 07:55 PM, Brian Howard wrote:

> Tutorials that never bother to explain why you are typing in the
> specified code are less that worthless,
Again, you are supposed to understand Objective-C, In fact "Learning
Cocoa" does give you a brief tour of Objective-C (Chapter 3).

> This is why Cheeseman's Vermont Recipes are much better, he goes into
> detail.
Yes, VR is great. But we are not here to judge who is good and who is
bad. There is a routine you got to follow and that routine has been
prescribed by many people in this list genuinely.

> Besides, the cover of "Learning Cocoa" explicitly states that
> "extensive" programming experience is NOT needed.
That goes to "Experienced Developers" If you have experience with
programming C/C++ which is not very extensive this book is for you. But
if you don't, start carving the earth for you building.

>> There is no such thing that you start building the roof of a house
>> which is basically what you are trying to do. First build the basement
>> then the walls and then the roof.
>
> Apple recommends designing the GUI first!!!!!!

All right Apple, do you recommend learning GUI first then Objective-C???
I think you still misunderstand what I am trying to say. I am asking you
first learn how to build the code first. Once you are ready for IB then
Cocoa is a piece of cake.

> With Interface Builder it's supposed to be a piece of cake. But when I
> get tied up with trying to make sense of IB, I chill out by working on
> the Model side of the Application I'm striving for; gee, it's up to
> several dozen custom classes, each containing methods that contain
> dozens or hundreds of lines of code, and I'm way ahead here. And this
> is supposed to be the hard part!

AGAIN:
There is no such thing that you start building the roof of a house first
which is basically what you are trying to do. First build the basement
then the walls and then the roof.

"Bearing a child takes nine months no matter how many women are assigned
to this task." And you know what that eight of nine months may pass like
a breeze: But not the ninth month. You may suffer even more. That is
called the "learning curve".

Calm down and start reading books.

Think Difficult.

Fatih


NSLog(@"Grinding Cocoa beans!");


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