Re: Lost contents!
Re: Lost contents!
- Subject: Re: Lost contents!
- From: Brian Howard <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:25:17 -0400
I just got an answer off-list:
you did a "create files" again in IB.
it overwrites whatever you have
<RANT>
The real problem is I was thrashing around trying to solve a problem
with no good idea of what I was doing, because there is no real training
for this stuff. Cocoa is HARD, damnit! I have to learn a bunch of C
along with Obj-C, and TWO major apps on top of that--IB & PB. And the
minor apps have no documentation at all. And everywhere you turn there
are two or more ways to do the same thing, so confusion reigns supreme
if you avail yourself of all the bits and pieces scattered around.
Maybe this stuff is just too hard to teach well. But I think not. I
understand that Apple's main thrust is to cater to the big developers,
but in the long run it just might be guys like me that save Cocoa. And
we need better help. Not all of us are blessed with degrees in Computer
Science--some of us merely have degrees in Physics, or Chemistry, or
Medicine, or Molecular Biology! We ought to be able to pick this up
with the right help.
Just consider this: Apple is the only one who has put out something
touted as being for beginners, namely "Learning Cocoa," which is crap.
Meanwhile Bill Cheeseman and Aaron Hillegass both state up front that
YOU MUST HAVE A SOLID GROUNDING IN C, & EXPERIENCE IN SOME OOP before
trying this at home! And yet I'm making much better progress with their
works that with what Apple has provided. This is not a pretty picture;
as a person who thinks Microsoft is tantamount to the road to hell, I am
rooting for Apple BIG TIME. But your efforts to date vis-a-vis
documentation and training is, not to put too fine a point on it,
pathetic.
Again, please understand I am not ragging on the programmers and gurus
who are doing the actual work--I blame management fully. Steve and
company are the ones who set the priorities, and they need to get a
clue. The f*#%king jet could have paid for a slew of documentation
experts. And a few dozen extra programmers to boot. And maybe a couple
of folks who do know how to teach really well.
<END RANT>
Now, on a brighter note, thanks for this list. Without this resource,
and especially the fine folks who take the time to answer, I would have
no hope at all. The frustration would kill me.
On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 06:33 PM, Scott Tooker wrote:
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First off, pb-help is a better lists to send such messages to (you'll
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get a quicker response).
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Anyways, we have had other reports of sections of files being replaced
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by sections from other files or garbage. Were the whole contents of the
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file replaced or only a section? What version of the system are you
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running on?
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Scott
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On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 03:15 PM, email@hidden wrote:
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> Does anyone have an idea as to how I managed to lose the contents of a
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> Controller.m file in Project Builder? The file is still there, but
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> all of a sudden the contents are gone--replaced with template code. I
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> need to find out what happened, in order to be able to sleep
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> nights--already hard enough to do! I did a "clean" and several builds
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> until all the errors were fixed, and the contents were there during
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> all that, since some of the errors were in the Controller.m file where
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> the contents evaporated.
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> Brian E. Howard
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> Cocoa Cult Central
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> easing the pain with Wild Turkey
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