Re: Docs
Re: Docs
- Subject: Re: Docs
- From: Mike Beam <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:17:30 -0500
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> Georg Tuparev wrote :
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>>> And to be honest, if you really would like to improve your Cocoa
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>>> understanding while doing such project, use WebObject instead of PHP.
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>>> Believe me, this will bring you much further.
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>> This is not what I call being honest. Being honest is talking when you
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>> know what you are talking about and obviously you don't. WebObjects
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is java,
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>> not Cocoa.
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Marco Scheurer wrote :
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> And, obviously, you know about talking when you dont't know what you
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are
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> talking about.
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Please stop being rude and explain your feelings. PHP is a lot closer to
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C and far more easier to learn than Java, so if you want to use Cocoa
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with C, I don't see any good reasons why you should use WebObjects (java
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only) instead of PHP. Anyway, it all depends on your own preferences.
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But don't try to make people believe WebObjects will bring you much
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further than PHP as this is bullshit, or give me just an example.
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I subscribed to this list mid August. Since then, I have made my mailing
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list archive in 3 days using PHP (http://cocoa.mamasam.com) and
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everything was built up from the ground. Have you been able, since this
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list launched (end April), to make something similar with your beautiful
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WebObjects ? Nope. I would like to hear your good reasons ?
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Has Apple been able to set up something with WebObjects ? Nope. Instead,
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they use htdig and Mailman to handle their archives, and both, like PHP,
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come from Open-Source projects. If you want to prove that WebObjects is
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good, just do something for the community with it, I would be happy to
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see the results...
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As I feel you need more information about how PHP compares to
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WebObjects, you can refer to this link :
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http://workingmac.com/igeek/3.wm and http://workingmac.com/igeek/13.wm
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And please, stop telling me "learn WebObjects, it's better". This is
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simply not enough : prove it, give me examples, do something.
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Bertrand Mansion
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Mamasam
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Maybe I'm stepping into an argument that9s not mine, but when I heard
whoever say that WO would help one learn Cocoa, I took it to mean not that
it would help learn Objective-C/C or whatever from a language standpoint,
but rather WO would give another example of a well constructed OO framework
from which one could learn principles of OO design. I don't have much
experience with WO, and none with PHP, so I may be way off base, but could
someone comment on my assumption? BTW, thanks to all who responded to my
window capture post!
Mike Beam
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