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Re: Let's hope XP doesn't keep this "one-up" on OS X! [OT]
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Re: Let's hope XP doesn't keep this "one-up" on OS X! [OT]


  • Subject: Re: Let's hope XP doesn't keep this "one-up" on OS X! [OT]
  • From: Ryan Dary <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 09:54:24 -0700

When the computer first started up, it had you create yourself as a user. Then it automatically logs you in to that user every time you start up the computer. One would have to make manual changes to the "Login" system preference in order to setup a Multi-User system. This being true, I don't think it is fair to make the statement, "It's absurd to be forced to setup users in my case." because it just isn't true.

You weren't forced in setting up "users", you were forced in putting in the same user name and password that Mac OS's Startup Assistant has been requesting since OS 8. Sure, the reason it collects the information is different, and yes, behind the scenes it is setting up a user account; however there is nothing about the OS that forces anyone to use the Multi-User features.

The fact that Apple chose a Unix system to build from is the best decision ever in OS history for a big-commercial-company to make. Unix has been around for a long time and has been massaged by the community to become some really fine dough. Finally someone used the dough to make some bread! Congrats to Apple!

Yes, OS X is very young, however it is probably the most advanced OS for it's age! Just think of how far the classic Mac OS has come. As we know with technology, it never takes as long, to go farther, the second time! If Apple will look around and keep on moving, we are going to have a really exciting ride into the future of the OS.

- Ryan


On Friday, July 6, 2001, at 03:57 AM, email@hidden wrote:

Ryan,

Thanks for the advice! I run off the root account now, but I've had
problems with it reverting to no user accounts, etc. and I have to reset
the
whole thing up again. It's just a huge pain in the behind for someone who
is the only user of this machine. It's absurd to be forced to setup users
in my case.

I completely agree that this would be a great feature and it's totally
worth
pursuing -- I just think the feature Gods of OSX keep forgetting about the
"little" guy. I'd rather see something that wasn't so integral to the OS
(yeah, I know it's Unix).

From a UI perspective, it seems like there was a huge rush to go to
OSX/Unix
without thinking the whole thing through. I've talked with several people
at Apple about the UI and their response is always the company line: "it's
a
baby OS, give it time to mature" which translates into "we really wanted to
get this product to market regardless of its usability."

I also don't like the idea of my computer knowing who I am or what I'm
doing. It gives me the heebie-jeebies (man, that actually came through the
spell checker!). Maybe I'm just in denial about how much time I spend with
it. ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely down on OSX, I think it's quite
interesting and full of adventure -- it has room to grow. For me, I'm
using
it and developing for it, but I'll wait 12-24 months before I put it into
production.

Perhaps the most interesting thing is 500 years from now, none of this'll
matter. Alas, I digress...


Scott


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