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Re: Objective-C vs. Java
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Re: Objective-C vs. Java


  • Subject: Re: Objective-C vs. Java
  • From: David Kopec <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:22:04 -0400

I agree with you 100%. I'm comfortable with Objective-C the way it is.
After using it for a while I prefer it over Java and C++. I never
really got into object oriented C++ because after years of Java it just
doesn't look appealing. I too feel like I'm in the minority in not
being excited about ObjC++ coming to Mac OS X. I'm afraid it will force
me to deal with four languages on a regular basis in Cocoa
development(Objective-C,Java,C,C++), and I don't really want that level
of complexity when I'm working on projects with other people.

Some things are better best forgotten, that's the way I feel about my
experiences with C++.

> On Wednesday, July 25, 2001, at 12:19 AM, cocoa-dev-
> email@hidden wrote:
>
>> ... but does anybody know if Apple (or
>> a third-party) is working on an LDAP v.3 directory services plugin
>> for the directory services architecture in Mac OS X? I've asked on
>> another list ... but I think this has the interest value of a clump
>> of fungus for most people.
>
> Hmmm... tell me more about this clump of fungus (fungi?)....<grin>
>
> Personally, I think that with the GNU compilers gaining in popularity
> with management in various companies ("WHAT!?!? It's FREE?!? Let's get
> it!") I think the C# is going to have a struggle. C, C++, and
> Objective-C already exist and have a large backing. C# is stuck (as much
> as Dylan was) as a single-source language - you buy it from M-soft and
> only from M-soft. VB is a fad, not a trend. Just like C# is a fad.
>
> I've got a few years in C and C++, but I REALLY like Objective-C (along
> with PB and the rest). It has really knocked a LOT of time off of my
> development time - which can only look good. Granted, I am not into the
> esoteric stuff - well, maybe a little - but I have yet hit a point where
> I said "you know, if I had source it would be SO much easier". That is
> the one thing I hated about C++ under CW - I spent more time looking at
> source than writing code. And, to be honest, I just plain LIKE
> Objective-C better (once you get used to the syntax C++ starts to look
> kind of ugly).
>
> Java will always be around - until something better is seen that can
> replace it.
>
> Unfortunately I fear that I am in the minority - there seem to be a lot
> of people waiting for ObjC++ to be supported. Personally, I think it is
> refreshing to learn a knew language (okay, some _minor_ extensions). But
> let me tell you, right now I am having a ball!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lloyd
> -----
> Canna Software Development
> "No animals were harmed in the creation of this email, however the
> donuts suffered an untimely end."


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