Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
- Subject: Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:33:34 -0700
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Your needs are your needs and they are not the needs of the average
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developer! The fact that you have quite effectively and capably dealt
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with databases involving millions of records per table and requiring 15+
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page SQL statements using 23-way joins is damned impressive....
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.... and completely outside of the realm of the needs of an average
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developer!
Actually, those extremes we both mentioned were actually things we've seen
that represent a small portion of what we do and are things that we
specifically DON'T think EOF is good for. We got a little off-topic (and
took it off-list, BTW) in the discussion, but even if our needs were that
peculiar, why should Apple take away the existing functionality? That's our
main point. Not that they should cater new development to the niche
markets, but that they shouldn't take away the robust set of Enteprise
tools that were already a part of the system before they removed them.
There are a great many small scale applications out there for the Mac --
that have been slowly disappearing -- for such things as Doctors, Dentists
and Law Office management. There are a lot of FileMaker-based solutions
that are rather weak compared to what is available for Windows. I think
that there IS a need and a demand for being able to quickly put together
database front-ends. Especially given the ease of Cocoa to learn, someone
who is a Doctor, Lawyer, or whatever but who has some programming
experience could put together some really great stuff.
I also think that a tool like EOF/Cocoa is imperative to getting
penetration into the Enterprise market. If they don't get Apple's inside
corporations, they are never going to increase market share. Maybe that's
not important, but I'd like to see it happen.
And I think you actually made my point in your e-mail. EOF and a database
like Frontbase or OpenBase gives a small developer a chance to create some
really great software quickly, which helps the platform.
So, sorry for the little SQL-pissing match we got into. You're right - it
was outside the scope of this list, but I don't think because our needs are
something of a niche is no need to dismiss EOF/Cocoa's potential or
usefulness to developers at large.
Jeff
P.S. I just got a Ti-Book and I have nobody to tell.. =)