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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps
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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps
  • From: "David W. Halliday" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:56:17 -0500
  • Organization: Latin AmeriCom, formerly Latino Online

Ed Silva wrote:

> I hate to chime in with a 'me-too' but I have spent some time playing with
> WebObjects 5 EOF stuff, and I can say that I can see a LOT of reasons why
> a ObjC EOF would absolutely ROCK!
>
> What I don't get is the arguments/discussion on drivers, etc. Why not have
> an ODBC EOF driver and only worry about the DB's having ODBC support? The
> JDBC for WO 5 works fine (at least with OpenBase).

In fact, with both ODBC and JDBC EO adapters we would have most all
databases covered without having to maintain custom EO adapters, thus
mitigating maintenance costs (in much the same way as Java/WO 5), but would
have a vast increase in viable applications.

>
> If that's the case there is nothing standing in the way, and the
> functionality would be a great asset.
>
> It would be a tremendous shame to let such a kick ass technology die off.

Admittedly, if Apple is intending to make significant changes in WO, for
the future (like supporting the upcoming network applications infrastructure),
I can see Apple not wanting to bring two implementations along.
However, even if this is their intention, I can see myself choosing the
IBM solution over the Apple solution, if I'm forced to use Java in either
case.
(I would far rather use a more language agnostic approach. I love
Objective-C. I can accept Java, but it's missing some very nice extensibility
features* found in Objective-C [one's that Sun has explicitly stated they have
no intention of adding to Java]. However, I can see there are even better
languages available and in the wings [SmallTalk, TOM, etc.].)

>
> ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> --Ed

* Java is also missing "true" Class Objects---since, unlike Objective-C,
SmallTalk, TOM, etc., it has no Meta-Classes. Fortunately, there are
workarounds for /this/ problem (though they're rather ugly, though not as ugly
as for C++, since Java at least has some semblance of a class object).

David email@hidden


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