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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps
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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps
  • From: Deirdre Saoirse Moen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:28:32 -0700

At 12:34 AM +0200 6/22/01, Georg Tuparev wrote:
I understand and share your frustration, and I do not have understanding for the viewpoint proclaimed by bbum and some others, and I strongly believe they do not understand the horizontal market, but to call Ernie clueless is going too far. I know him from the times before he was working @ Apple, and although I was really surprised to see him braking his own promises, one should understand the environment these guys are working.

While I never would have called Ernie THE most clueless product manager, in my opinion, one who breaks promises and then tells developers who object that they "care too much" (as he did explicitly say at the Stepwise BoF) is going way too far. Like I've said, that's someone I would fire.

They are just surrounded by people who sell iMacs! I mean, there is nothing wrong with selling iMacs, but these folks are completely incapable of understanding the enterprise market, and for them the software development is abracadabra. So, I am even surprised that Ernie's team achieved what we have today!

You know, when I think about the 68k -> PowerPC transition, that impressed me. Compared to that, Ernie's team has done nuttin'. Then again, I could say the same for the rest of the industry -- because that was quite an achievement and the standard I hold Apple to.

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