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Re: FW: Objective C vs. Java
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Re: FW: Objective C vs. Java


  • Subject: Re: FW: Objective C vs. Java
  • From: David P Henderson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 01:28:46 -0400

On Thursday, May 10, 2001, at 07:09 , Tyler LaGrange wrote:

It's hard to argue with some of the points that a lot of the Objective-C fans out there are bringing up about speed issues and loosely typed objects/methods or whatnot. But you must also take in to consideration the maintenance of the code and the ability to find people with skills that will add to your project.

But the skills you want are Cocoa Mac OS X programming skills; Java and Objective-C are both secondary to that need. I can know Java or ObjC and use them without knowing dit about Cocoa.

Java is a much smarter choice if you would like to find reference materials and other snippets to add to your code. On amazon.com we can see 1571 listings for Java, and 17 matches for Objective-C, most of which aren't even relative. fatbrain.com has 1168 books for java, and 8 for Objective-C - only half really relevant (Objective-C isn't even listed under Programming Languages - http://www1.fatbrain.com/catalogs/computing/subjects.asp?VM=c&SubjectCode=
PGLS&SubjectID=&filter=). I bet a trip down to Borders or something would make this point pretty obvious as well. The few sites I have come across for Cocoa and Objective-C have been pretty devoid of real good examples.

This argument is meaningless given the context of the inquiry. We are talking about developing Cocoa apps for Mac OS X. How many jobs does a search for Cocoa produce? How many books?

[snip]
And again how many of these Java jobs are for Cocoa programming? Why not do a search for Macintosh programming jobs and see how many come up. If you want to use Cocoa with Java, then do so but at least get a better justification for choosing Java over ObjC for Cocoa dev than there are more Java jobs out there than ObjC jobs.

Dave
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