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Re: Mac OS X Developer's Guide - another opinion
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Re: Mac OS X Developer's Guide - another opinion


  • Subject: Re: Mac OS X Developer's Guide - another opinion
  • From: Ben Jansen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:20:14 -0800

I have the exact same senario, and I completely agree.

- Ben

On Wednesday, November 7, 2001, at 10:03 AM, Brian Hook wrote:

I had already ordered Mac OS X Developer's Guide before the hubbub about
it erupted, and I'm glad I did.

My feeling is that it's being vilified for much the same reason
"Learning Cocoa" was tarred and feathered -- it states a lot of stuff
that people on this list (or other Mac programmers) know. There's basic
remedial stuff, such as a very even and lucid comparison of Java, Obj-C
and C++ (not just syntax...it talks about things like mix-ins,
delegation, fragile base classes in C++, etc.). It talks about the
evolution of OS X and things like CFM vs. Mach-O.

To me, the book is wonderful because I DON'T KNOW THIS STUFF ALREADY. I
think developers like me (experienced developers with little experience
on the OS X platform) are the intended target audience, not experienced
Cocoa/Obj-C/OS X coders that are looking for something more.

Most of the information in the book can be found elsewhere on the net,
either by downloading a zillion PDFs off of Apple's Web site or
collating all the information at the various third party sites like
CocoaDevCentral, O'Reilly and StepWise. But that is a massive pain in
the ass for those that are just starting out.

The Developer's Guide is big, covers a lot of basic material, but still
manages to cover things that I'd always wondered about but never knew.
It covers a LOT of stuff that most of you reading this e-mail would care
less about -- CodeWarrior, ProjectBuilder, a lot of basic overviews of
things like AppKit, Foundation, CoreFoundation, Carbon, OOP, Obj-C, etc.


But once again, I don't think it's truly appreciated just how much new
information there is to learn (and how difficult it is to find) when
coming to OS X from another platform. Even on some of the other mailing
lists the same questions keep popping up over and over ("Should I use
Carbon or Cocoa?" "Which OpenGL interface should I use?" "How do I do
fullscreen?"). Hopefully some of the basic questions are answered by
this book.

Yes, the book "wastes" a lot of time on things that many people don't
care about, but that "wasted" space is saving me a LOT of time and
frustration.

Regards,

Brian
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