Re: Cocoa newbie frustration
Re: Cocoa newbie frustration
- Subject: Re: Cocoa newbie frustration
- From: David McCabe <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 21:47:23 -0700
Ha! You all think you have it bad? Try learning Java-Cocoa! I don't have
"Vermont Recipes". I don't have "Learning Cocoa". You'll find that in
the Java section of the docs about 1 in 3 entries has a 'description
forthcoming'. Not StepWise, nor Cocoa Dev Central, nor anything else
that I have found have *anything* about Java.
And I still don't have my Egg Timer working <frown />.
On Sunday, October 7, 2001, at 06:26 PM, Brian Hook wrote:
At 09:17 PM 10/7/01 -0400, email@hidden wrote:
I am new to Cocoa and Objective-C. I am, however, not new to the OOP
paradigm (java and c++ are my bread and butter).
First off, OOP as defined by Java and C++ are significantly different
than the type of OOP you'll find in Obj-C (and Smalltalk). Obj-C
relies on certain constructs that simply don't have a straightforward
analog in C++ (ex: delegates).
I am frustrated because:
It can get very frustrating, but be persistent. The VERY first thing
you should do is the Vermont Recipes #1 tutorial at www.stepwise.com
After that, read "Learning Cocoa" -- it's not the best, but it's what
we have. Then, check out the stuff at www.stepwise.com,
www.cocoadevcentral.com, and www.cocoadev.com All are valuable
resources.
create/bring up MULTIPLE windows, for example...). I checked the Sample
Code too. Same deal. Nothing real, only small, insignificant apps.
I don't know about that. Sketch is a pretty good app to learn quite a
few things on, including notifications and multiple NIBs (IIRC).
2. Apple's documentation is #?!@.
That much is very true.
I have been searching for the
documentation of the Objective-C's version of NSRect on their website.
The documentation you have on your hard disk is probably just as good,
however it's still not ideal.
Brian
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