• Open Menu Close Menu
  • Apple
  • Shopping Bag
  • Apple
  • Mac
  • iPad
  • iPhone
  • Watch
  • TV
  • Music
  • Support
  • Search apple.com
  • Shopping Bag

Lists

Open Menu Close Menu
  • Terms and Conditions
  • Lists hosted on this site
  • Email the Postmaster
  • Tips for posting to public mailing lists
Re: *That* book
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: *That* book


  • Subject: Re: *That* book
  • From: brian hook <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:33:52 -0700

I just wanted to pipe in and mention that I agree with Bill's comments 100%. Learning Carbon was a waste of time, but Learning Cocoa has been a very good book so far. I'm an experienced C++/Wintel programmer, and I'd also read the Objective-C book, so Learning Cocoa was really the next logical step up for me since it explained PB, IB and Cocoa somewhat equally.

If I wasn't familiar with OOP concepts or at least the basics of Obj-C, it would have likely frustrated me. If I already knew bits of Cocoa and PB/IB, I think it would have bored me. As such it, it was "just right" for me. I wish it had more topics, more examples and more in-depth discussions on many other topics (e.g. NSOpenGLView, etc.), but alas, that's not happening.

Even with its problems, it's the ONLY book out right now that you can get, and it's definitely good enough if you have very little familiarity with Cocoa. It's not a reference manual, and it doesn't cover a lot of major concepts, but it's what we have =/

If there was a proper reference manual I think we'd all be better off, but given the horrifying state of Apple documentation (which is why "RTFM" is a joke), it's all we have and, for developers just learning Cocoa/PB/IB, I think it's better than nothing.

There's probably a reasonably good market for a more comprehensive book on Cocoa, that's for sure. Same goes for a book on IB and PB. Thankfully Obj-C is simple enough that I think Apple's book is sufficient.

Brian


References: 
 >*That* book (From: "Smith, Bradley" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: *That* book (From: Bill Cheeseman <email@hidden>)

  • Prev by Date: Re: *That* book
  • Next by Date: Re: *That* book
  • Previous by thread: Re: *That* book
  • Next by thread: Re: *That* book
  • Index(es):
    • Date
    • Thread