Re: Aqua Interface Guidelines & Close Window location ?
Re: Aqua Interface Guidelines & Close Window location ?
- Subject: Re: Aqua Interface Guidelines & Close Window location ?
- From: Mark Eaton <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:06:09 -0700
On Thursday, September 20, 2001, at 02:22 AM, Ondra Cada wrote:
Mark,
Mark Eaton (ME) wrote at Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:54:07 -0700:
ME> If usability testing shows
ME> that users expect the "Close" menu item to be in the same menu as
the
ME> "Open" menu item, then by god it should be there or you had better
have
ME> a really good reason for not putting it there.
You have, an excellent one: the "Close" command we are speking of in
this
thread closes _AN UTTERLY DIFFERENT THING_ than the "Open" command
opens!!!
Naturally that the "Close (document)" command belongs to the same menu
as
"Open (document)" one.
Gee, I'm glad we've all got your OK to keep doing things this way..
"Close Window" though is something quite different and
very definitely belongs to the "Window" menu.
An optional command that closes utility and other non-document windows
would be completely app dependent. Some (maybe even most) apps don't
have a need for such a command since they use utility windows, palettes,
and toolbars to contain non-document controls.
Command-w should do what it has always done: close the document. If you
want another standard key for closing utility windows or other
non-document windows it should be Command-option-w or Command-shift-w or
whatever. The additional modifier should be place on the command that is
optional behavior, i.e. not necessarily present in all apps.
That the Mac OS for ages messed up the difference (by using non-windows
for
other things than documents) and thus mightily confused its users is of
no
consequence.
I have no idea what you mean about Mac OS 'messing it up'. Traditionally
Mac OS has been the only platform that had anything resembling a clean
correlation between the Close command and what actually happens in the
app.