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Re: why Obj-C
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Re: why Obj-C


  • Subject: Re: why Obj-C
  • From: Ed Silva <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:31:48 -0800

"Erik M. Buck" wrote:

I must confess that I am not a GUI programmer (the last time I did GUI work apart from motif was for windows 3.1). So I
am not a good judge of Interface design tools. i just like very much Interface builder. I was not aware it was 14 years
old.

If you've done Motif work you have my sympathies. I've been there. I had a simple interface done with Motif (a few text fields and a few check boxes and buttons and menu items) and it only took about 1000 lines of code (including comments and whitespace). With IB and Cocoa it takes 0 lines for the interface and only a few to get the data. I hate X Windows with a passion, and all the GUI toolkits that go with it (GTK+, Qt, Athena, Motif, etc). But I'm not bitter. ;-)


All the languages I have learnt (see above) the most flexible/powerful I know is C. This is why Obj-C has been a bit of
a dissappointment for me. I didn't expect to have to learn the language as well the programming methodology/Classes.

I agree. C is the 'One true language', but Obj-C is just a small extension to it (as compared to the massive bloat that is C++ and the STL). You can still get down and dirty with C in Obj-C, but you also have a very nice (once you wrap your head around it) OO language to work with that isn't burdensome (as C++ can be).

Anyways I think I shall continue with Obj-C with less stress in my free time. Maybe I can give it a fairer more
considered chance.

Read the Obj-C book, then Hillegass' "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X" and it will all make much more sense.


Apologies for venting in public :)

Matt

We all need to vent sometimes. :-)

Cheers,

--Ed
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