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Re: Dynamic Languages [was: Re: why Obj-C]
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Re: Dynamic Languages [was: Re: why Obj-C]


  • Subject: Re: Dynamic Languages [was: Re: why Obj-C]
  • From: "John C. Randolph" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:07:18 -0700

On Saturday, April 6, 2002, at 07:46 AM, Thomas Lachand-Robert wrote:

I hope we all can use Objective-C forever...

I don't!

I've been using Obj-C for about ten years, and it's been great, but I'm more than ready for something better. Tom looks interesting, but until someone rewrites the AppKit in Tom, or there's a way to bridge TOM to Obj-C, it's not really an option.

The successor to Obj-C might be a language that has Marcel's HOM built-in, it might be something that looks more like LISP or Smalltalk, or it might be heavily aspect-oriented or declarative.

Whatever form such a future language/developement environment takes, I want it to blow away the compile-debug-edit cycle. (Joy's Active Developer looks like a good start on this, BTW.) I want to keep my source code in a fully relational database, where I can say "build the app as it was last Wednesday", or "use the November 12 baseline, except for these five classes I'm working on".

I want *live* editing/patching of the code in a running instance of the app, and I want to be able to trivially rollback changes made to the code, or to any data the app was working on.

-jcr


John C. Randolph <email@hidden> (408) 974-8819
Sr. Cocoa Software Engineer,
Apple Worldwide Developer Relations
http://developer.apple.com/cocoa/index.html
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