Re: why Obj-C
Re: why Obj-C
- Subject: Re: why Obj-C
- From: Matthew Johnson <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:19:23 +1000
Andy Lee wrote:
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I can't believe this thread is still alive.
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Despite your receiving many polite and well-reasoned answers to these
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objections, you keep raising them.
Hold on. I am just answering new posts on the subject directed to me. I am just answering questions. I am trying to be
polite to people who are asking me questions about my attitude.
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Your original post began, "This is not a troll or anything...," but
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IMO it is having the same effect -- a conversation going in circles
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and sucking up time from people who could be answering more serious
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questions about Cocoa.
I didn't realise there was a finite bandwidth that I was taking up. Just because you have answered my question doesn't
mean that other people answering my question (with questions of their own) should be ignored.
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With the amount of industry experience you have, you're not going to kill your career by
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ignoring Cocoa.
Hardly. I am not a mac programmer and I doubt I ever will be. That is not a insult. My skills are with big Iron and
thats what I enjoy programming for.
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Second, in an earlier post you gave some context around your
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dissatisfaction with Cocoa. You said you'd created a quick UI with
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Interface Builder, and based on that alone, with no knowledge of
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Objective-C or the Cocoa frameworks, you convinced yourself and your
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colleagues that it was a trivial hop to a finished application. My
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request is: PLEASE DON'T DO THAT. It hurts everybody, including (as
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you've noticed) yourself.
Sorry if the tone of my statement was not obvious but it was a castigation of myself for expecting miricles because of
my experience with IB.
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You've repeatedly complained that
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programmers re-invent the wheel, that they feel compelled to create
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new things for the sake of newness rather than technical merit.
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There is some truth to this, but if you feel that strongly about it,
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then you of all people shouldn't have jumped on a bandwagon you
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didn't know anything about.
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Cocoa was/is advertised as the proper way of writing OSX code. I was required by my employer to write a small peice of
software for OSX so I wrote it in cocoa. As for jumping on a bandwagon I didn't know anything about well that would make
me a pretty useless programmer.
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This is my last post on this thread. If I say any more, it will be off-line.
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Fine with me. And I will say no more. Unless someone asks me a question. Then I shall do what I have been doing and
respond.
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--Andy
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Matt
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