Re: Help me please to find a job in Cocoa
Re: Help me please to find a job in Cocoa
- Subject: Re: Help me please to find a job in Cocoa
- From: matt neuburg <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:54:05 -0800
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 00:36:13 -0700, Brad <email@hidden> said:
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On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 06:33 AM, email@hidden wrote:
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> Please tell me how to find a job in Cocoa.
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I'm in a similar boat as Marewan. I recently got my CS degree and have
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been working with Cocoa for a couple years. What I'm wondering is if
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anyone has any advice on the best way to go about finding Mac jobs,
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Cocoa or otherwise
The last time this topic arose (which seems to be every month or two), I picked out one of the posters and asked him if he was sincerely looking for work; he said that he was, so I offered him a job. (In fact, I offered him *my* job - I've been making a very decent living with Cocoa for the past several months.) He suddenly started acting like this was a suspicious thing to do, and didn't take it. So, one key to finding a job is to take it when it's offered.
Also, this person's subsequent whining and insults made it clear to me and my employers that he wouldn't have made a good member of the team. Which brings up another point, that the key here is "team". To do software work, you have to be willing to deal with clients who are not programmers and can't describe adequately what they want and keep changing their minds, and yet you must deliver it anyway. It seems to me that if you're willing to be reasonably adaptable and vaguely polite, and have good communications skills, finding work in Cocoa shouldn't be any problem. If you're someone who says "yes" to everything the client asks you to do, and delivers, they'll want you back again and again. If you whine at what an idiot you think they are, they won't. The skills people really need in order to get work aren't CS or Cocoa skills, they're people skills. m.
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