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Re: Why Cocoa source code isn't open? [terribly OT]
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Re: Why Cocoa source code isn't open? [terribly OT]


  • Subject: Re: Why Cocoa source code isn't open? [terribly OT]
  • From: Charles Srstka <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:11:06 -0600

You may know this already, but at least the Foundation is open source.
It's part of Darwin. You can download it from http://www.darwin.org/ .

On Friday, February 8, 2002, at 09:30 PM, email@hidden wrote:

>> Why are Cocoa frameworks NOT open for public review?
>
> Oy. Well, I'd love for them to be. When I worked at Apple, having
> access to the AppKit sources was a *huge* boon to bug-finding and
> subclassing and all sorts of things. I miss that a lot.
> But I wouldn't do it if I were Apple. Cocoa is an amazing asset to
> Apple -- it is their ace in the hole. Or so I think. Comparing it to
> PowerPlant, MacApp, etc. is not really doing it justice, IMHO. And so
> I'd keep it close to my chest if I were them.
> I would guess that the other big benefit to Apple is that it
> effectively prevents most developers from relying on implementation
> details, private API, etc. Some hacking and reverse-engineering still
> goes on, but Apple can shift their internal implementation of something
> relatively smoothly without breaking too many people. If everybody had
> access to the source, this would inevitably cease to be so easy.
> I think the real solution to the problems you cite is better
> documentation. Apple really needs to get on the ball in this
> department. I don't think very many people at Apple really understand
> what the situation is like for external developers trying to figure out
> Cocoa.
> This seems like a terribly academic discussion in any case; I'm sure
> the idea has already occurred to Apple, and I'm equally sure a debate
> here won't make a whit of difference. :->
>
> Ben Haller
> Stick Software
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