Re: Why Cocoa source code isn't open? [terribly OT]
Re: Why Cocoa source code isn't open? [terribly OT]
- Subject: Re: Why Cocoa source code isn't open? [terribly OT]
- From: Charles Srstka <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:11:06 -0600
You may know this already, but at least the Foundation is open source.
It's part of Darwin. You can download it from
http://www.darwin.org/ .
On Friday, February 8, 2002, at 09:30 PM, email@hidden wrote:
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> Why are Cocoa frameworks NOT open for public review?
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Oy. Well, I'd love for them to be. When I worked at Apple, having
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access to the AppKit sources was a *huge* boon to bug-finding and
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subclassing and all sorts of things. I miss that a lot.
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But I wouldn't do it if I were Apple. Cocoa is an amazing asset to
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Apple -- it is their ace in the hole. Or so I think. Comparing it to
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PowerPlant, MacApp, etc. is not really doing it justice, IMHO. And so
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I'd keep it close to my chest if I were them.
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I would guess that the other big benefit to Apple is that it
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effectively prevents most developers from relying on implementation
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details, private API, etc. Some hacking and reverse-engineering still
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goes on, but Apple can shift their internal implementation of something
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relatively smoothly without breaking too many people. If everybody had
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access to the source, this would inevitably cease to be so easy.
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I think the real solution to the problems you cite is better
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documentation. Apple really needs to get on the ball in this
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department. I don't think very many people at Apple really understand
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what the situation is like for external developers trying to figure out
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Cocoa.
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This seems like a terribly academic discussion in any case; I'm sure
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the idea has already occurred to Apple, and I'm equally sure a debate
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here won't make a whit of difference. :->
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Ben Haller
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Stick Software
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