Re: Objective-C (Possibly OT)
Re: Objective-C (Possibly OT)
- Subject: Re: Objective-C (Possibly OT)
- From: Lally Singh <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 05:36:18 -0500
Not to just jump in here, but I've talked to many interested but
hesitant programmers about Cocoa and Objective-C, including some very
talented programmers. I'll mix in their responses below, along with
some of my own:
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 04:15 AM, Thomas Lachand-Robert wrote:
Le lundi 14 janvier 2002, ` 09:14 , Steve Klingsporn a icrit :
This is kind of a weak defense for an utterly non-standard and
not widely used programming language.
Not a problem because it is fully compatible with C and even C++, and
very easy to learn.
Very true, however, to the uninitiated, it just *looks weird*. Yes, a
very weak argument, but people,
including programmers, all are weak on some way or another :-). Word of
mouth is great between Mac
programmers, but perhaps a written document or a comparison done on real
projects would be a better
selling technique :-)
[snip]
Maybe if we hold our breath, new and exciting types of apps
will suddenly 'evolve' and 'discover themselves?' ;o) Too bad it's
utterly non-standard. "Write all your code in our super-special
programming language that is based on a popular one but not
widely used, instead of C++, which sucks but is available
everywhere" does not seem like a smart battle cry for Apple,
eager to move beyond its 5% market share.
Looking at the two choices, Carbon (yuck!), and Cocoa (interesting
but relevant?) is depressing to me.
Looking at the 5% market share is depressing me. I don't really believe
that it is the lack of apps that is the main problem here.
Well, I'd personally say that while it's not 100% our fault, we could be
developing that next killer app that's Mac-only and Cocoa based. We
can't let Apple have all the fun with iPhoto :-)
Honestly, I'd be afraid of Mac going mainstream, like sadly enough,
Linux is*. Right now, the Mac platform has people who don't mind paying
the price of lower market share in exchange for a really nice
development environment and a great user community. But, that's just
me, I like the bozo-filtering that comes naturally to minority
platforms...
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[*] - Sadly, the invasion of Linux by the script-kiddies and wannabes
has really destroyed the culture, and most of the fun, behind Linux.
I.e. theme support & MS-Windows copying instead of real innovation.
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H. Lally Singh
Graduate Student, Virginia Tech
Computer Scientist, Geoloc Corporation -
http://www.geoloccorp.com
Staff Writer, Cocoa Dev Central -
http://www.cocoadevcentral.com