Re: Cocoa's Popularity
Re: Cocoa's Popularity
- Subject: Re: Cocoa's Popularity
- From: Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:52:39 +0100
Am Samstag den, 23. Mdrz 2002, um 05:21, schrieb Matthew Lehrian:
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 10:20 PM, Hsu wrote:
Why has Apple let so many powerful tools die off? I'm not talking
about the
Finder, or DPS->Quartz but more on the lines of
EOF
Alive and well as part of WebObjects
Where is WebObjects and EOF for Objective-C? Without it, Cocoa has no
viable multi-tier architecture solution. If the plan is truly to kill
off WO/EOF for Objective-C, then Apple should at least supply tools to
generate "Obj-C-EJB-proxy" objects, so Cocoa clients could seemlessly
access EJB easily. Maybe Apple should buy OAK (Objective-C CORBA
implementation) and integrate it into Cocoa. Maybe Apple should
provide a DO interface from WebObjects so Cocoa clients could access
EJB's as Objective-C Distributed Objects - this would tie Cocoa clients
to WO (instead of being able to access any EJB container) but at least
there would be a possible solution.
This is a HUGE PROBLEM. This makes Cocoa UNUSABLE for multi-tier
applications and kills the potential reusability of the multi-tier
architecture. I couldn't even consider using Cocoa in a corporate
setting because of the lack of multi-tier architecture possibilities.
This is a shame because of the speed, power and efficiency of Cocoa
development tools.
I'm working on a project that I had originally intended to use WO
(before Obj-C was dropped) and have a Cocoa and a web client. Now, I'm
FORCED to ABANDON Apple's technology, which I REALLY LIKE, because
Apple doesn't appear to be very interested in this market.
I really don't want to use Swing for the client application just
because I really prefer Objective-C and Cocoa, but Cocoa's simplicity
is CRIPPLED HORRIBLY by not being able to play in multi-tier
architectures.
I'm currently exploring using MICO CORBA and Objective-C++ to achieve
this functionality. If it works, I'm going to explore writing
Objective-C bindings for MICO. Maybe this is a good open source
project opportunity. Anyone interested?
Everybody who wants to have EOF back should file a bug report with
Apple. If there are enough people requesting this, Apple might
reconsider its decision.
Ranting here on the list doesn't help much
greetings, Lars
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