Re: Apple and Developers (was lots of different subjects)
Re: Apple and Developers (was lots of different subjects)
- Subject: Re: Apple and Developers (was lots of different subjects)
- From: Rainer Brockerhoff <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:23:18 -0300
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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:07:02 -0500
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From: "Andrew R. Mitchell" <email@hidden>
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Subject: Apple and Developers (was lots of different subjects)
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I've been following the Cocoa Advocacy/Cocoa's Popularity thread for
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days now, and after todays messages I just had to chime in. I'm not
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trying to start a flame war here, I'm just trying to provide some
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perspective from a long time Mac (now Carbon) developer.
As a Mac developer since 1984 (and on other hardware since 1969), allow me to add a few comments...
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First off, I'm tired of this Carbon vs Cocoa, Objective-C vs C++
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flame war that is going on. Both Carbon and Cocoa are key for the
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future success of Apple. And neither is perfect for everything. API
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choice along with language choice should be based on the task at
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hand. Some things Cocoa is better for, some things Carbon is better
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for. Some things C++ is better for, some things Objective-C is better
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for, and lets not forget some things an alternate language may be
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better for (AppleScript, Java, Ada, Smalltalk, Dylan, Perl, Python,
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etc). Not every language or API is suited for every task.
I couldn't agree more. Although I'm in the (perhaps) enviable position of not having to port an older application to run under the Carbon event/GUI models, my Cocoa applications rely heavily on calling into Carbon frameworks (yes, and BSD too). I expect this will continue for the life of Mac OS X.
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Once you get by our differences, the rest of the problems we have
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with Apple seem to be fairly consistent between us. They can be
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broken down into the following eight primary issues:
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Great summary, Andrew!
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7) Cost - Some of us are professional developers, some of us are
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hobbyists, and some of us fall somewhere in between. Apple needs to
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make sure we all have the ability to make great software for the
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platform. (One of my requests would be to have WWDC webcast.)
Let me add here that, as much as I like WWDC and Apple's developer support, the rising costs are making it increasingly prohibitive for small developers, especially small non-US developers like myself. Webcasting WWDC would be no solution either... we just can't get at the bandwidth. Selling the DVDs a month or two later, at media+shipping cost, might help some, although in the current format the most important parts (sample code and text screens) are unreadable.
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Rainer Brockerhoff <email@hidden>
Belo Horizonte, Brazil
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by" (Douglas Adams)
http://www.brockerhoff.net/ (updated Feb. 2002)
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