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Re: OT: Web Objects -- Anybody using it?
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Re: OT: Web Objects -- Anybody using it?


  • Subject: Re: OT: Web Objects -- Anybody using it?
  • From: Chris Hanson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:50:41 -0600

At 3:27 AM +0100 11/12/02, Ondra Cada wrote:
On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 03:13 , Dave Sopchak wrote:

Could someone explain to me the reasoning behind killing the Obj-C support? I've really gotten the hang of this language in the past year and love it...why would they remove support for it?

Supposedly for a better portability, which is one big roaring BS, with the plethora of environments GCC happily works in.

Believe it or not, just having GCC working on a platform isn't sufficient to port code to it. WebObjects 4.5 was tied to a particular set of libraries and a particular runtime, and I bet it was a Herculean task for Apple to get it up and running on another platform.

WebObjects 5.1 in 100% Java *is* portable. It's very easy to set up a Linux box running WebObjects 5.1, even though Linux isn't officially supported, because it's just Java. And it really *works* too. I bet you could set up an AS/400 minicomputer with WebObjects 5.1. Or a Z/series mainframe. Or an SGI. Or a toaster, so long as it has a Java 2 Standard Edition 1.3.1 VM available...

Also, interoperability with J2EE is important for marketing reasons if nothing else. And the ability to deploy WebObjects applications in servlet containers rather than requiring Monitor can also be quite useful.

Overall, WebObjects 5.1 in 100% Java is in itself a very, very good thing. The only major downside from my perspective is that getting EOF for Objective-C into Mac OS X is taking an excruciatingly long time because the WebObjects team "owns" EOF.

-- Chris

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