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Re: NSDictionary question
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Re: NSDictionary question


  • Subject: Re: NSDictionary question
  • From: Ondra Cada <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:15:32 +0100

On Saturday, November 16, 2002, at 04:10 , Andreas Mayer wrote:

Nope. You don't know and don't need to know, unless

... combined with this ...

or (b) it is self-evident

... really doesn't make it easier for the newbie. ;-)

Haven't I said something of "it should be in docs anyway"? Well it should,
but is not -- at least, I can't remember seeing any excerpt which would exlicitly state that a, say, delegate is not copied. Presumably it was not documented since, well, it's one of those self-evident cases ;)

I would argue those "most cases".

OK, maybe I am writing funny code. ;-)

There _are_ cases when an object is treated like a value (a string, a number, a identifier, etc.); in those cases you'll want to make a copy. Otherwise you use references.

Add "usually", and I'll sign that ;)

Better?

I think we actually don't need to argue: what I am (quite probably mistakenly) aiming at is to make the thing clean to newbies. Of course for them it would be best if it was always documented -- but it just is not. Therefore, I think they should ask themselves:

(a) is the behaviour documented? If so, we know, no need to muse on;
(b) would be a copy an obviously stupid and nonsensical thing (like with a delegate)? If so, it's referenced;
(c) would be a reference ... (ditto)? If so, it's copied (actually, this hardly ever happens -- but for the dictionary keys which luckily fall to (a), I can't think offhand of any example);
(d) otherwise we MUST be prepared for any of the alternatives: it might be either copied or referenced, and it is even possible the way would change in the next main release ;)
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Ondra Cada
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