Re: [OT] jobs?
Re: [OT] jobs?
- Subject: Re: [OT] jobs?
- From: Pete Carss <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 12:23:07 +0000
I have a job at Bristol University in the UK doing Cocoa - it makes me
feel quite guilty when I read this list because I'm learning on the
job, and there are obviously a lot of extremely proficient Cocoa
programmers here. The reason I mention it though, is that the job
wasn't advertised as a Cocoa post, my employers hadn't even heard of
Cocoa. The position called for a lot of work with video, and
accessibility in terms of interface was paramount. I managed to
convince them in the interview (thanks to a few deft demonstrations of
Apple sample code) that Cocoa was the way to go. They thought they were
going to have to employ 2-3 C++ programmers for 2 years to achieve what
I have in 4 months. I still worry about my next position though...
Pete
On Saturday, Nov 16, 2002, at 07:59 Europe/London, Sherm Pendley wrote:
On Saturday, November 16, 2002, at 12:15 AM, Glenn Howes wrote:
Hi,
I know this is tangential to Cocoa programming, but where exactly
do people find employment doing Cocoa programming?
I wish I knew. :-(
Aren't there supposed to be people doing bioinformatics work on
PowerMacs?
Yes, but that has very little to do with Cocoa. Most of the tools
they're using are command-line and/or X11 apps, and the folks that are
using them aren't, for the most part, terribly picky about interface
usability. (If you're used to using CDE, it can hardly get worse...)
So, not a lot of Cocoa front-ends are being written for that stuff.
I made a conscious decision to learn Objective-C and Cocoa this
year, and I think I've gotten fairly adept, but it isn't helping me
get a job. It's looking more and more like I should have taken up C#
or at least updated my Java skills. I like the Cocoa environment, and
would love a job working in it, but the market seems to be saying
otherwise.
I hate to say it, but I agree with you. There aren't many jobs out
there - and we're competing with 15-year NeXT veterans for those. It's
discouraging.
The truth is, though, I'd rather retrain and become a chef than
support MS in any way. Seriously.
sherm--
If you listen to a UNIX shell, can you hear the C?
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