Re: [OT] jobs?
Re: [OT] jobs?
- Subject: Re: [OT] jobs?
- From: "ian" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:10:02 -0600
same, i work for a mainly macintosh firm, and they really had no clue they
could use it...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Carss" <email@hidden>
To: "cocoa-dev" <email@hidden>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] jobs?
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I have a job at Bristol University in the UK doing Cocoa - it makes me
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feel quite guilty when I read this list because I'm learning on the
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job, and there are obviously a lot of extremely proficient Cocoa
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programmers here. The reason I mention it though, is that the job
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wasn't advertised as a Cocoa post, my employers hadn't even heard of
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Cocoa. The position called for a lot of work with video, and
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accessibility in terms of interface was paramount. I managed to
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convince them in the interview (thanks to a few deft demonstrations of
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Apple sample code) that Cocoa was the way to go. They thought they were
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going to have to employ 2-3 C++ programmers for 2 years to achieve what
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I have in 4 months. I still worry about my next position though...
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Pete
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On Saturday, Nov 16, 2002, at 07:59 Europe/London, Sherm Pendley wrote:
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> On Saturday, November 16, 2002, at 12:15 AM, Glenn Howes wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> I know this is tangential to Cocoa programming, but where exactly
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>> do people find employment doing Cocoa programming?
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> I wish I knew. :-(
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>> Aren't there supposed to be people doing bioinformatics work on
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>> PowerMacs?
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> Yes, but that has very little to do with Cocoa. Most of the tools
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> they're using are command-line and/or X11 apps, and the folks that are
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> using them aren't, for the most part, terribly picky about interface
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> usability. (If you're used to using CDE, it can hardly get worse...)
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> So, not a lot of Cocoa front-ends are being written for that stuff.
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>> I made a conscious decision to learn Objective-C and Cocoa this
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>> year, and I think I've gotten fairly adept, but it isn't helping me
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>> get a job. It's looking more and more like I should have taken up C#
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>> or at least updated my Java skills. I like the Cocoa environment, and
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>> would love a job working in it, but the market seems to be saying
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>> otherwise.
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> I hate to say it, but I agree with you. There aren't many jobs out
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> there - and we're competing with 15-year NeXT veterans for those. It's
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> discouraging.
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> The truth is, though, I'd rather retrain and become a chef than
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> support MS in any way. Seriously.
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> sherm--
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> If you listen to a UNIX shell, can you hear the C?
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