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Thick Borders vs thin Borders
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Thick Borders vs thin Borders


  • Subject: Thick Borders vs thin Borders
  • From: Steve Sheets <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:57:33 -0500

Ok, another User Interface Question.

The Aqua User Interface Guidelines are very exact about this point: the border between the left side of the window, and the first control should be 20 pixels. In fact, all the borders should be this. The Interface Builder guides help developer layout the window with this large 20 pixel border.

HOWEVER, there does seem to be instances when a much smaller border is desired. This is usually when the window is mostly filled with large items like large scrollable text fields or list fields. In these cases, the larger border looks bad. This is especially true for Metal windows!

And Apple breaks their own rules (I know big surprise), and often uses a smaller border. For example, iPhoto, Sherlock, iCal & Quicktime Player all use various smaller borders (each one different).

Lastly if you place a Toolbar on your application, like all good Aqua apps should have, the first item of the toolbar is much closer than 20 pixel to the left of the screen. So if you follow the Aqua User Interface Guidelines EXACTLY, your first control on your window will still lay closer to the left side, and not line up with the other controls on the window.

So, given that people do it, and we need it, shouldn't we have a consistent small border constant. Say in the 6-10 pixel size?

Any comments?
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