Re: Re(2): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
Re: Re(2): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
- Subject: Re: Re(2): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
- From: ber <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:06:26 -0400
I haven't read the HIGs (much) yet since I want to use them as sort of
a test when I'm
done coding my first cocoa program. I'll go back and change things as
appropriate.
I use an "Apply to Session" button for non-persistent preference
changes.
brian
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 04:00 PM, Jens Bauer wrote:
Hi Ondra,
On Thu, 19 Sep, 2002, Ondra Cada <email@hidden> wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 04:35 , Jens Bauer wrote:
Nevertheless, what I would recommend is to prepare a preference
support
framework. That could save a lot of work, and, what's most
important, it
would allow a "metapreference" of user's selection "I want
HI-compatible
behaviour" or "I want OK/Apply/Cancel buttons, they aren't
HI-compatible,
but I like them better".
Sorry for breaking in here...
If you have an OK button, which means the preferences are set, when
you
click it, and you have a Cancel button, which means "forget about
what I
did, I screwed up", what's the "Apply"-windows-like button good for
then
?
-(IBAction)ok:sender {
[self apply:sender];
[[self window] orderOut:sender];
}
Good, short, concise way of explaining it. :)
Some like the possibility to either apply&close, or just apply. Of
course,
that whether there are both of those or not is again determined by
defaults (ie., the user).
Yes, but I think that most people who use Mac OS X these days, come
from
Mac OS, where they are used to the OK/Cancel button.
-Many of these people think (like I indicated) that an Apply-button is
Windows-ish, so I think it's worth considering using the OK/Cancel
style.
I'm not saying that you should change, just that I would get confused.
;)
The confusion may originate from that some applications just applies no
matter what (as soon as you click the close-window-button), and other
applications only applies one "pane" -eg. like if you have a TAB-view
or
similar, when clicking the Apply button.
There are also applications, which applies all the changes you did,
when
you clicked the apply-button.
But whenever an application has the OK/Cancel buttons, you are pretty
sure what they do. :)
Love,
Jens
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