Re(2): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
Re(2): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
- Subject: Re(2): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
- From: Jens Bauer <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:00:17 +0200
Hi Ondra,
On Thu, 19 Sep, 2002, Ondra Cada <email@hidden> wrote:
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On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 04:35 , Jens Bauer wrote:
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>> Nevertheless, what I would recommend is to prepare a preference support
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>> framework. That could save a lot of work, and, what's most important, it
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>> would allow a "metapreference" of user's selection "I want HI-compatible
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>> behaviour" or "I want OK/Apply/Cancel buttons, they aren't HI-compatible,
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>> but I like them better".
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> Sorry for breaking in here...
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> If you have an OK button, which means the preferences are set, when you
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> click it, and you have a Cancel button, which means "forget about what I
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> did, I screwed up", what's the "Apply"-windows-like button good for then
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-(IBAction)ok:sender {
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[self apply:sender];
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[[self window] orderOut:sender];
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}
Good, short, concise way of explaining it. :)
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Some like the possibility to either apply&close, or just apply. Of course,
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that whether there are both of those or not is again determined by
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defaults (ie., the user).
Yes, but I think that most people who use Mac OS X these days, come from
Mac OS, where they are used to the OK/Cancel button.
-Many of these people think (like I indicated) that an Apply-button is
Windows-ish, so I think it's worth considering using the OK/Cancel style.
I'm not saying that you should change, just that I would get confused. ;)
The confusion may originate from that some applications just applies no
matter what (as soon as you click the close-window-button), and other
applications only applies one "pane" -eg. like if you have a TAB-view or
similar, when clicking the Apply button.
There are also applications, which applies all the changes you did, when
you clicked the apply-button.
But whenever an application has the OK/Cancel buttons, you are pretty
sure what they do. :)
Love,
Jens
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