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Re(4): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
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Re(4): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")


  • Subject: Re(4): Preferences (was: UI: "Direct manipulation" is in conflict with "Forgiveness")
  • From: Jens Bauer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 02:48:39 +0200

Hi Ondra,

On Fri, 20 Sep, 2002, Ondra Cada <email@hidden> wrote:

>
>On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 10:00 , Jens Bauer wrote:
>
>>> Of course,
>>> that whether there are both of those or not is again determined by
>>> defaults (ie., the user).
>>
>> Yes, but I think that most people who use Mac OS X these days, come from
>> Mac OS, where they are used to the OK/Cancel button.
>> -Many of these people think (like I indicated) that an Apply-button is
>> Windows-ish, so I think it's worth considering using the OK/Cancel style.
>
>I fear you did not understand.

Woops, you are right, after reading your reply, I must admit that I got
the wrong impression at first.

>I am speaking of a framework, which *allows the user* -- each user
>independently -- to select whether the prefs should
>
>- be of the buttonless immediate type
>- or have general OK/Cancel (for all panes at once)
>- or have pane-specific OK/Cancel (for each pane separately)
>- or both pairs;
>- or OK/Apply/Cancel instead of any or both those pairs.

This is indeed a cool idea.

>I *personally*, matter of factly, prefer the two OK/Cancel pairs (one for
>the current pane, one for all panes), but that is completely unimportant.
>First, the reasonable default is no buttons at all anyway, for that
>conforms best to Apple's HIG. Second, tastes are here to differ, which is
>exactly why there are defaults ;)

Yes. I completely agree with you. -Sorry for the confusion. :)
I would actually prefer that Apple would consider this to be a standard,
as people coming from other platforms would have an easier transition.
It's important that such a thing is system-wide, so that it's not mixed.

I'd really like having some special keys on the keyboard, which could
"click" standard-buttons in a dialogbox: "OK", "Cancel" and "Skip"
(perhaps "Apply" and "Revert" as well, but the size of these buttons
shouls be standard key size, so... not too many).
-But that's a completely different story. ;)


Love,
Jens

--
You need a PowerMac
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