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RE: Membership - ADC Q&A
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RE: Membership - ADC Q&A


  • Subject: RE: Membership - ADC Q&A
  • From: Lance Drake <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:23:01 -0600

What compelling reasons are there for that extra $300 expense? CDs of Server, perhaps, which might be nice (I'm not even sure that that's included)? What has been everyone else's experience with and without formal membership?

This was my question, as well.

Last year, when asked to pay $800 to view the WWDC conference videos on DVD - AFTER I had already paid $500 to be a 'Select ADC Member' I made my decision.

The $800 fee for the DVDs was not required if you had already paid the $1500 to be an attendee to the conference - in which case you had probably attended the sessions of interest and the DVD was only going to be like the ultimate set of Cliff Notes.

My argument to the ADC people was - "You should pay ME $800 to sit thru 100 hours of speakers doing hi-level overviews explaining about how to make code on your OS work". They didn't agree... Where the heck did that $800 number come from anyway? Oh well..

Charging people like me - small independent developers - $500 for a seat outside the room where the 'Secret Inside Club of the Cool Guys' meets (I get to hear about how cool it will be at WWDC but don't get to attend) and then asking $800 for aging information and demos seems like a less than maximally effective approach to promoting growth in the field Apple developers.

My Solution: Buy the OS Family-Pak, join the free, limited-access, no-hand-holding version of ADC and insisting that my clients pay the $500 for ADC Select membership if they wanted the monthly mailings and two opportunities to call about 'issues'.

It's probably part of the whole economic downturn that Apple doesn't provide the support for developers they used to be able to afford. OK.. at least they haven't made it IMPOSSIBLE to be a developer without paying the HUGE entry fee like what they want over at MSDN.com.

When you think about it, most anything you need - you can get - from Apple, for free... and what else, you can borrow from your friends. And besides... DARWIN is OpenSource!! It don't get much better'n that.

Lance Drake
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