Re: Learning Mac programming (Cocoa) more...
Re: Learning Mac programming (Cocoa) more...
- Subject: Re: Learning Mac programming (Cocoa) more...
- From: Danny Swarzman <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:56:35 -0700
Java has many advantages. Less to learn, more portable.
Use standard Java classes as much as possible. You only need Cocoa to
interact with the Mac operating system.
-Danny
At 19:51 -0700 8/1/03, David Thorp wrote:
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Thanks again to everyone who has replied to all my posts. I'm finding
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all this information very helpful.
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A couple more things...
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It seems learning WebObjects and Cocoa at the same time is unwise, due
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to the sheer size of what's to learn.
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Some on the WO list advised that WO is huge and I really should start
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with Cocoa first if I want to learn both in the long term. So that
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raises one final question. Can cocoa do what I really want to do?
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What I really want to do is this:
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I've been developing large scale, custom, networked, multi-user
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filemaker solutions for years. FileMaker is great for that sort of
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thing on a small scale, but I do find it very inflexible.
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These apps might be a glorified contact manager or a project management
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system or something like that. A graphic design house, or an insurance
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company or whatever will have me write a system that manages all their
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clients, suppliers, projects (project = generic word for graphic design
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job or insurance policy for a client, or whatever) and so on.
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The data is on a server somewhere and staff in the company log in to
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it, from their own computer elsewhere in the office, then add, delete,
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edit records etc. over the network and everyone else sees the changes
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as they happen.
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FileMaker is great for these sorts of things. But has many
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limitations. The kinds of applications I've spent the last few years
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developing are generally those that the clients pay 10's or 100's of
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thousands of dollars for, and take 1-2 years to develop. They want big
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systems with many fancy features, often requiring a lot of hoop jumping
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through to achieve in FileMaker. I don't believe any more that
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FileMaker is the tool for these tasks.
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The question is: Are ObjC and Cocoa suitable tools for this? Can it
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be done, and how easy or hard is it?
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Also, say I write a system in ObjC and Cocoa (most of my clients are
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Mac users), but then they tell me they want it to run on Windows as
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well. How hard is it to then port that to Windows?
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Or... is all the above really something for Java and WebObjects?.. Or
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something else?
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I realise that whatever way I go, the learning curve for all of this is
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big, but I'm willing to put in the time and effort. But I just don't
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want to waste time going in the wrong directions...
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Once again, thanks for all the help so far. Any advice on the above
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will be most appreciated.
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Regards again...
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David.
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