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Re: [OT] Re: EOF undead?
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Re: [OT] Re: EOF undead?


  • Subject: Re: [OT] Re: EOF undead?
  • From: publiclook <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:37:50 -0400

Programming style and the relative styles and best practices between Cocoa and alternatives are definitely on-topic for a technical Cocoa forum like this one (IMHO). I have always found that discussions about _why_ something is or isn't a good practice are more valuable than unexplained assertions. Someone who is used to C++ with Qt or MFC or whatever (almost everyone) probably finds a discussion about _why_ Cocoa does things radically differently even more interesting than mere statement of the facts that Cocoa does things differently. I think a thread about _why_ some developers choose Qt over Cocoa is enlightening about virtues and vises of both Cocoa and Qt. I think analysis of Cocoa's style (dynamic) verses the style of other frameworks (static) is crucial to understanding how Cocoa works. Compare and contrast are excellent ways of providing technical information.

Finally, a discussion of NDAs that Cocoa developers are required to sign in order to get information from Apple in order to learn about recent changes to Cocoa is certainly a valid discussion for a list that is about disseminating information about Cocoa.

Note: I have only participated in one of the numerous threads to which I allude above.



On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 05:59 AM, Alastair J.Houghton wrote:

On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 07:34 am, j o a r wrote:

This whole thread is OT for this list! Cocoa-Dev is going down the drain because of the low signal-to-noise ratio. Where's the list-mom?

This is Cocoa-Dev "Discussions regarding native Mac OS X application development using Cocoa frameworks", not Cocoa-Chat "Rants, raves and rumors about anything and everything Cocoa".

Having just posted a comment at the end of this thread (thus becoming part of the problem myself), I have to admit that I agree with joar on this. Cocoa-dev has recently been swamped with off-topic posts, ranging from a huge thread about programming style through to the whole Qt vs. Cocoa thread.

Please can everyone try to keep vaguely on-topic?

Kind regards,

Alastair.
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