• Open Menu Close Menu
  • Apple
  • Shopping Bag
  • Apple
  • Mac
  • iPad
  • iPhone
  • Watch
  • TV
  • Music
  • Support
  • Search apple.com
  • Shopping Bag

Lists

Open Menu Close Menu
  • Terms and Conditions
  • Lists hosted on this site
  • Email the Postmaster
  • Tips for posting to public mailing lists
Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)


  • Subject: Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
  • From: Jeff Harrell <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 01:52:31 -0500

On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 01:03 AM, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:

Personally, I'd expect Apple to at least make a concession to the fact that some users prefer two buttons, e.g. by making the different kinds of mice an option so people like me don't have a perfectly good one-button mouse sitting on a shelf gathering dust.

Apple's not in the mouse-making business. I think the built-in driver supporting second mouse buttons and scroll wheels on third-party USB mice is fine and dandy.

Or failing that, could they at least ship high-end Macs (like the G4 or the Powerbook) with a two-button + wheel mouse?

They shouldn't do that for precisely the same reason they ship low-end Macs with one-button mice. Last year I came into some extra cash and went out and bought a top-of-the-line Power Mac G4 as the home computer for my family. (Hey, you've gotta splurge sometimes, you know?) We no more want a multi-button mouse on that machine than we would on any other.

Or they could ship a "one button plus wheel" mouse, where the wheel doubles as the secondary mouse button, like it does on my MacAlly (though that feature should be off by default, to avoid newbies accidentally clicking while scrolling because their fingers cramp up pretty often).

I think you just answered your own question. ;-) If my opinion were sought, I would vote "no" on a product that has to be specially tweaked to accommodate finger-cramping.

Look, all this hoo-hah about mice (mouses? whatever) is old news. Mice are not good input devices. Mice with multiple buttons on them are even worse. We need to solve the problems surrounding touch-sensitive screens. The three big ones are cost, software (how to discriminate exactly what the user is pointing at which a big, fat finger mashes down on a little control object), and smudgery. Once we have those solved, the mouse will go the way of the light pen and the floppy drive. Don't make me slide some widget around on my tabletop to line up a pointer with a control! Just let me point at the damned thing! Direct manipulation is where it's at. All my life, and I've been using computers since I was but a wee lad, I've been unable to shake the feeling that using a mouse is like trying to mix a martini with one of those remote manipulator things they use in hazardous materials labs: awkward to the point of absurdity.

--
email@hidden
http://homepage.mac.com/jharrell
_______________________________________________
cocoa-dev mailing list | email@hidden
Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-dev
Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

  • Follow-Ups:
    • Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
      • From: The Amazing Llama <email@hidden>
    • Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
      • From: Jeff Harrell <email@hidden>
    • Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
      • From: Wade Tregaskis <email@hidden>
    • Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
      • From: Dix Lorenz <email@hidden>
References: 
 >[OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article) (From: "M. Uli Kusterer" <email@hidden>)

  • Prev by Date: Calling java.util.regex from Objective-C
  • Next by Date: Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
  • Previous by thread: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
  • Next by thread: Re: [OT] Mouse buttons (was Re: troubling article)
  • Index(es):
    • Date
    • Thread