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Re: Developers love new G5 performance ?
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Re: Developers love new G5 performance ?


  • Subject: Re: Developers love new G5 performance ?
  • From: Shawn Erickson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:46:07 -0700

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:07 PM, Wade Tregaskis wrote:

A quick search reveals that there are many available dual P4 (Xenon) systems that they could have tested. I wonder why they didn't ?

Umm.. they did test dual Xeon P4 systems, in fact the main bake offs in the keynote were against dual Xeon P4 systems.

The Xeon is a hyped up P3, not P4. I'm not sure what the P4 equivalent is called (Xenon, as suggested, perhaps, although I've heard 'P4 Xeon' used), but it certainly wasn't what Apple were comparing with. So far as I know, it's almost impossible to get a general-use 'Xenon' system, because they're not made in volume (lack of demand, it's rumoured).

Intel has "Pentium III Xeon", "Xeon" and 'Xeon MP" processors as they call them. The P3 Xeon top out at 900MHz the only Xeons currently top out at 3.06GHz. The later two have features similar to the P4s (hyper treading, etc.).

I think you are confusing Itaniums into this... most folks skipped Itaniums completely until the Itanium 2 came out (even that isn't selling that well yet). Itanium is not sold or priced as a desktop CPU however the PPC 970 and P4 are (however P4 doesn't support SMP unless you get one of the Xeon variants).

Apple tested against the Xeon 3.06GHz in a dual CPU configuration, they used Dell Precision 650 systems.

PPC 970 would hold its own against the Itanium. Against the Itanium 2 it would be about even in integer performance and lag in floating point. The Itanium 2 isn't very friendly in backwards support while the PPC 970 is very friendly.

Also most Itanium workstations start at around 4k and have a fraction of the features found in the new PowerMac G5, I bet an equivalent system (in feature set) to the low end PowerMac G5 would easily run you 4.5k or more.

-Shawn
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