Re: Harbinger or anticlimax? [maybe a little OT]
Re: Harbinger or anticlimax? [maybe a little OT]
- Subject: Re: Harbinger or anticlimax? [maybe a little OT]
- From: Jeff LaMarche <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:23:42 -0500
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 01:18 AM, email@hidden wrote:
Now WO is written in Java.
If Apple had not converted to Java, people would have stopped taking WO
seriously. From a business perspective, it was a no-brainer. Pushing
Objective-C when Java had clearly won the corporate mindshare battle
would have been swimming against the current. It was a political
necessity, even though there were clearly some things lost in the
transition. There were, however, also some gains; there is a lot more
existing Java source code available.
There are no good UI solutions for Java. Java GUIs SUCK EGGS.
That's a pretty sweeping statement to make based on writing one lovely
little data modeling tool. I'm no fan of writing Java GUIs, but I can't
say with any certainty that there's nothing out there. It seems like
somebody must have written a tool similar to IB for Java. If not, then
somebody certainly should, it's a huge opportunity.
Besides that, THERE IS NO EOF for Cocoa. So I can't take Apple
seriously on either front. You can't easily write CRUD apps in Cocoa,
and Cocoa is incompatible with WO.
Ummm... when I installed WO on my machine, it added an EOF Cocoa
application template. It would be nice if EOF were available to Cocoa
separate from WO, but to say that there is no EOF for Cocoa isn't
accurate.
Apple could have ruled the enterprise. They HAD the best tools. Not
anymore. FUMBLE. No synergy. Just crap.
No. Having the tools does not equate to winning the battle, and
sticking with the tools they had had, they never would have ruled the
Enterprise. No CIO or CTO would have selected a non-Java based
application server package, no matter how good it was. Java, J2EE, Web
Services - these are all buzzwords that get the foot in the door right
now. They've personally allowed me to get WO used in a few places that
were relatively anti-Apple.
No Apple (or Java) in my enterprise. Too flakey.
Ta ta. Have fun with .net.
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