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Re: itunes for windows HOWTO ???
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Re: itunes for windows HOWTO ???


  • Subject: Re: itunes for windows HOWTO ???
  • From: Brian Hannan <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:11:47 -0800

On Nov 11, 2003, at 2:48 AM, Alastair Houghton wrote:

And for all the noble effort going into GnuStep, from what's been said here and what I've seen on their website, you won't get the same stability and reliability as opposed to building a native Windows frontend using Win32 APIs.

I don't think that it's fair to make comments about GNUStep's stability and reliability on Windows without actually have used it on Windows (which is why I have avoided doing so). Yes, they say that their Windows UI code is in a very early stage of development, but I don't think you can use that statement to infer things about its robustness.

I never made a statement about "robustness" which to me has a very different connotation than what I said, "stability and reliability". I'm not slamming GnuStep's design. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

According to the supported platforms doc at gnustep.org (http://gnustep.org/information/machines_toc.html), Windows is:

Windows with CYGWIN (Unstable!)
Windows with MinGW (Unstable! As always...)

Unless this doc hasn't been updated and I'm wrong. If that is correct, then, if you build a GnuStep app on Windows I'm guessing it will be less stable and reliable than one using more stable Win32 APIs.


No, I'm not a Windows lover. But if you have the time and concern for users on that platform, I'd say give them the native UI and experience they expect.

There's nothing inherent in the Cocoa framework itself that says what the UI should look like. In OPENSTEP days, OPENSTEP apps supposedly looked and acted pretty much like proper Windows apps, and I imagine that Sun probably had OPENSTEP apps looking like Motif applications.

I've been burned too many times by cross platform UI frameworks in the past to believe they can ever tightly integrate with any particular OS, unless the abstractions in that UI framework are simple enough or designed to tightly integrate with a particular platform up front. Then again, if you have GnuStep code and want to run on various platforms, targeting x-platforms and their UI is nice to have.

--
Brian Hannan
Chief Admiral of Uncle Jam's Navy

"One nation under a groove, gettin' down just for the FUNK of it."
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