Re: iTunes style searching on an NSTableView
Re: iTunes style searching on an NSTableView
- Subject: Re: iTunes style searching on an NSTableView
- From: Rams <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:31:01 -0400
If you want to port back from Cocoa-Java to Obj-C, I've got a fairly
nice Mail.app style search field posted at
http://homepage.mac.com/rgurley/Personal5.html
It is intended to be a bit more feature rich than the search field in
Joe Lester's JCKit. His is written in Obj-C,
http://homepage.mac.com/joe_lester/JCKit.sit
In regards to the images, it seems we should make that a feature
request to Apple. We should ask them to post a 'developers pack' of
images. That way we wouldn't have to worry about them going DMCA on
us, and we could provide a consistent UI across Mac apps. If every
popup search field has a different looking magnifying glass and cancel
button, users could get confused pretty quickly. I think that is
everyones' intention here. Not to rip off Apple images for nefarious
purposes, but to use them in a manner consistent with other Mac apps so
that our own apps don't look out of place on OS X.
I've submitted my request to Apple under Design/Ease of Use,
Interface/Aqua here
http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/
It reads,
Subject: Image collection for developers
In order to provide a more consistent interface for end users, I'm
making a request on behalf of myself and other developers. Could Apple
be so kind as to post an image collection containing various images
found in Mac OS X and other Apple applications to be used in third
party Mac apps? Most of us can find these images ourselves, but with
the DMCA looming, an official post from Apple with a copyright notice
outlining acceptable use would be very helpful. Examples of these
images would be the delete image in the Finder toolbar (the red circle
with strike thru), the magnifying glass and cancel button in the
Mail.app search field, and others. These images are generic enough to
be useful to all developers and are already familiar to Mac users. In
the interest of a consistent human interface across all Mac apps, I
think it would be beneficial to everyone if the use of these images
were explicitly allowed in the proper context on third party Mac apps.
But I'm nobody. Perhaps a few of you with a bit more clout would like
to do the same? :-)
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 11:22 AM, Robert Borsuk wrote:
Hi,
That's a bummer. I just was trying to point out that after spending
a couple of months in cocoa sometimes it's hard when someone gives you
a project and it doesn't compile and you have to fool with it. It's
nice when you can just run it, set break points, and understand how it
works. Though I want to say this list is great and I couldn't have
made the Obj-C Cocoa conversion without the following 3 things.
1. Cocoa programming for Mac OS X - Hillegass
2. O'Reilly site - Tutorials
3. This list - especially the archive at cocoa-masm
Rob
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 11:04 AM, Alastair J.Houghton wrote:
Unfortunately the project you pointed to is missing all of its
graphic images.
That's because the graphics are copyrighted by Apple. I don't know
what the official position is on "borrowing" images from Apple
applications for use in Mac OS X apps; I would hope/imagine that
they'd turn a blind eye, as long as the images in question were only
used on Mac OS X, but it'd be interesting to hear what the Apple
position on this sort of thing is.
Kind regards,
Alastair.
Rob Borsuk
email: email@hidden
Colourfull Creations
Web: http://www.colourfull.com
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