Re: OSX Programmer Needed $400
Re: OSX Programmer Needed $400
- Subject: Re: OSX Programmer Needed $400
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:46:59 -0700
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:36:39PM -0800, Steve Ehrenfried wrote:
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> Really? All game programmers on the mac make more
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> than $100K?!? Maybe
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> I *ought* to reconsider being a sysad! Or do you
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> have to move to
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> Silicon Valley? Boise's pretty nice, so I dunno...
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Not quite the point. First of all, game programmers
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are paid less than a non-game programmer with a
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similar level of experience/skill because it's
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considered by the powers that be that game programming
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is more "fun" than updating a payroll program for
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Safeway, or some such.
Huh. Every thing I've read says that game programmers are generally the
ones required to work 22hour marathons, 7 days a week. When I worked at
Albertsons, you can be daggon sure none of the payroll people were
putting in that sort of time :-)
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Re-read the ad. The person is obviously looking for a
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senior level programmer (previous experience with Mac
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OS X, OpenGl/3d graphics, USB/HID, Windows porting),
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and the job sounds like at least 40-80 hours of work,
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probably more. So, no matter where you live in the US,
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you'd be lucky to get a rate between $5 and $10 hours,
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which might not be too bad if you live in Bangalore or
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Czech Republic. However, if you live in the US, you'd
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be better off financially working for $12/hour with
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benefits at Starbucks, though you'd be working with a
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different kind of cocoa at Starbucks. ;-)
It was the 'make more than that in 1 day' portion that generated my
response...
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Sorry if I sound jaded, but I think expectations
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should be set at a reasonable level. This is important
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so that the best and brightest programmers can
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continue to get the kind of pay they deserve, and thus
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can continute to keep the art alive and progressing,
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instead of having to leave the profession to get a
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real estate license so they can feed their kids. This
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issue is more real than you might think. Besides, I
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just hate low-ballers.
Hey, it's his right to low-ball, and it's your right to negotiate.
That's what I tell my boss around eval time, anyways :-)
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That said, if you think a grand total of $400 is
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reasonable pay for 1-2 weeks (perhaps more) of Mac OS
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X programming, then perhaps you should contact the
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poster.
Well, I'd probably do it for the experience (and in fact had someone
email me by accident in response to this ad, who offered to do it for
free), but even at $400 I'd be ripping him off B-) Maybe later, after I
have a bit more real-world programming under my belt.
D.A.Bishop
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