Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Disabling_Expos =E9_for_some_windows,_some_da y?= =3 F
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Disabling_Expos =E9_for_some_windows,_some_da y?= =3 F
- Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Disabling_Expos =E9_for_some_windows,_some_da y?= =3 F
- From: Glen Simmons <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:43:40 -0600
Ah, I misunderstood what you were doing. In the case of a "window" that
replaces the desktop picture, I can see the usefulness of being
excluded from Exposi. My concern is that developers would start having
their normal windows excluded. I'm not sure how to allow your special
case without the danger of others abusing it.
Glen
On Jan 26, 2004, at 10:09 AM, Yann Bizeul wrote:
Hi think you're right, and this is apple is thinking.
By the way, I do not agree with you, If Apple think that the dock
should not be exposed, then they have to understand that some
developers extanding the features of MacOS X would like the same
thing. I hope developers are smart enough to use this feature when it
should be.
In my case, as I said, GeekTool displays log in the background, those
are not regular window, they display informations on the desktop, that
should *stay* on the desktop. GeekTool's users would like to use "show
desktop" exposi key/shortcut to see what is displaying GeekTool.
By the way, thank you for your point of view.
Regards,
Le 26 janv. 04, ` 16:25, Glen Simmons a icrit :
Personally, I don't think Apple should provide the API you are
requesting, and I hope a "hack or something to provide this 'feature'
" can't be found. I would bet there would be quite a few developers
that would feel that their app is special and their windows shouldn't
be affected. Suddenly, Exposi isn't very useful anymore because only
half the windows move out of the way when I press F11 and I still
can't see my desktop. I press F9, but some of the windows didn't
shrink, so I can't see them all, so this feature is useless. Exposi
is a system level function. It shouldn't be affected by an
application.
I really don't see why it's a problem for your "preference pane to
display log files or pictures on the desktop" to be affected by
Exposi. I mean, Exposi is a temporary state, it's not intended to be
used continuously.
Respectfully,
Glen Simmons
On Jan 25, 2004, at 1:21 PM, Yann Bizeul wrote:
Hi list
Panther is there for three months now, and developer are still
waiting for a way to disable Exposi for some windows...
This does not seem to be difficult to provide a window property to
handle this. Am i wrong ?
I'm the developer of GeekTool
(http://projects.tynsoe.org/geektool/), a preference pane to display
log files or pictures on the desktop, and many people write to me
asking to not hide GeekTool when Exposi is activated. All I can do
is answer that, for obscure reasons, Apple does not want this to be
publicly available, so I'm waiting for a hack or something to
provide this "feature". Same thing for NSMenuExtras not available to
mortal developers, we have to use things like MenuCracker...
So if somebody have informations about this, please inform us !
Regards,
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