Re: cocoa app from scratch
Re: cocoa app from scratch
- Subject: Re: cocoa app from scratch
- From: "Ihar 'Philips' Filipau" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:29:08 +0200
- Organization: Home Sweet Home
Mark A. Stratman wrote:
Furthermore, good luck and have fun maintaining your extra seven
trillion lines of code. ;-p
Like Pandaa already said, I'd rather spend a few minutes clicking around
with a mouse than several hours sifting through pages and pages of a
hard-coded GUI.
1. IB cannot update file which I already have modified - so I have to
do it manually anyway. So you cannot do it completely automatically
anyway. Switch forth and back from Xcode to IB just to add another
method to class as for overkill. I do it in couple of seconds by hands
without need to: i. switch to IB; ii. find its window; iii. switch to
classes; vi. locate class; v. right click to add method; vi, make up
parameters, vii. click to generate source code/whatever. All this
instead of in Xcode: i. type method in; ii. select it, switch to .h/.m;
iii. paste it; iv. Cmd-S. Done. So unvisual way has its advantages too.
2. I want to see how it works - bit more academic, rather then
pragmatic approach you are argueing. But that find with me. I very
easily get lost on IB's windows, classes, properties, etc. Interface is
just not for me. And those trick that I need to go forth and back from
Xcode to IB to Xcode to IB to Xcode again is definitely doesn't help.
Thanks every one, especially Public Look for posted samples and
links. This is precisely what I were looking for.
P.S. <whining>Most of people have said - read documentations. Well I
did. I have tryed to find how to draw a circle in view. First I have
spent some time guessing that it is view where I can draw into. Second I
have tryed to find how to draw. I found article which say "How to draw",
which say "It's easy! Use App Kit!", without any link to where inside of
App Kit I need to look into. Searching "Application Kit Drawing" gives
piles of stuff which has nothing to do with drawing. I found NSImage,
NSColor documentation - but I still have no slight idea how to draw
anything into a view. Quartz, QuickDraw - cool api! great technology! -
but well give me _simple_ example how to draw 'A' on screen!.. Well, I'm
at moment digging Sketch example - it does some drawing, not that it is
simple.</whining> Documentation is good when you know what to look
for. As for beginer like I am - it is complete disaster. Well, everyone
recomends ORA's Cocoa programming - probably I would buy it.
--
Ihar 'Philips' Filipau / with best regards from Saarbruecken.
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