Re: Book about creating Cocoa widgets
Re: Book about creating Cocoa widgets
- Subject: Re: Book about creating Cocoa widgets
- From: "James B. Tuley" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:09:02 -0600
On Nov 6, 2004, at 8:12 PM, Phil wrote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:58:36 -0600, James B. Tuley <email@hidden>
wrote:
On Nov 6, 2004, at 7:09 AM, Daniel Todd Currie wrote:
You don't need a book; I'll sum up everything you need to know right
here:
Use the standard Cocoa widgets or your software will suck.
What's your problem, are you saying that NeXT implemented every
possible widget anyone would ever need?
About 90% of all custom widget's I've seen is either someone
re-inventing the wheel, or is just plain ugly (when it could've been
done cleaner with standard widgets).
Are you referring to custom widgets in Cocoa? Because I honestly have
never seen a needlessly, ugly, and reinvented widget in Cocoa unless
it's some hybrid carbon port. That fact of the matter is that it takes
0% effort to use a std widget in cocoa and so much more effort to make
your own. So not many write their own widget unless they really want
more than the base classes provide them. But that's not the real point
I want to make. The real point I really want to make, is that there is
nothing wrong writing custom widgets in your apps.
Look through the Apple Design Awards list.
Big Bang Chess 1.0
- Obviously uses custom widgets.
Unison 1.0.2a
-those square buttons look a little too good looking for standard
square buttons. It's minor but it's there.
GraphViz 1.12 (v11)
- Yup thats a custom view, couldn't avoid that.
SOHO Business Cards 1.0
- Circular slider doesn't look like the one introduced in panther, It
doesn't look pixelated when its large like the cocoa one and it's blue
Not to mention that tab bar that looks so slick on brushed metal much
like the ones apple uses in their brushed metal apps, but I don't see
it in interface builder.
So even apple use custom widgets in their own cocoa apps, and quite
frequently such as in:
AddressBook, iChat, Safari, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, GarageBand and not to
mention all the Cocoa Pro Apps which really did need re-invented custom
widgets, because standard cocoa widgets are too big, bright for
professional design applications.
So I cannot agree, that cocoa apps with custom widgets suck, or with
berating someone for wanting to write a custom cocoa widget.
-Jay
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