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Re: KVO one-step listening but two-step notifying?
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Re: KVO one-step listening but two-step notifying?


  • Subject: Re: KVO one-step listening but two-step notifying?
  • From: Michel Schinz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:22:47 +0100

Le 24 déc. 05 à 04:48, mmalcolm crawford a écrit :


On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:21 PM, Hamish Allan wrote:

True. I don't seem to be doing very well at coming up with examples, but I still feel that something isn't quite right. If it's important for me to notify observers of upcoming changes to properties, why can't I receive such notifications myself? It seems that this design doesn't allow for me to proxy data without copying it.

I'm not sure I understand the problem.

Without wanting to speak for Hamish, I think the problem is as follows: if you want to have a method in an object which serves as a proxy for a method in another object, you should be able to write something as simple as:

- (SomeType*)proxyMethod:(SomeOtherType*)parameter {
return [otherObject originalMethod:parameter];
}

The problem is that this proxy method does not behave like the original one for KVO: you can't observe "proxyMethod" using KVO as you could have observed "originalMethod" with KVO (well, you can observe it but you won't get the appropriate notifications). If you want to make the proxy method KV-observable, you have to cache the return value of the original method in the proxy object, observe the original method, etc. as we already discussed in this thread. This seems to be a lot of work for a trivial proxy method.

What I would want is a mechanism similar to what one gets with setKeys:triggerChangeNotificationsForDependentKey: but which would work for properties of another object too. That is, in the above example, I would like to be able to write the one-line proxy method, and have a simple way to say that when "originalMethod" changes in "otherObject", then "proxyMethod" also changes (i.e. it's a dependent property). Currently all of this has to be done by hand and it quickly becomes tiresome.

Michel.


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 >Re: KVO one-step listening but two-step notifying? (From: mmalcolm crawford <email@hidden>)

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