Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"
Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"
- Subject: Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"
- From: John Stiles <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:32:18 -0700
On Jul 10, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Ali Ozer wrote:
At this point use of "untitled" vs "Untitled" is more of an
aesthetic question, and (to bring the discussion back to Cocoa-
land) NSDocument uses a naming convention with capitalization
familiar to users of Adobe and Microsoft apps. By sticking with
NSDocument's default behavior, your apps will have leverage of any
change that might happen in the guidelines and frameworks. But if
you want to use "untitled," you are free to do so, since I believe
the hooks exist in NSDocument.
Maybe Engineering disagrees internally with the HIG in some places.
That's natural. But until the HIG is actually changed, isn't it
Engineering's job to follow it to the letter? I don't agree with the
sentiment that "well, we thought this part of the HIG could use some
work, so we ignored it and did something a little different instead."
It's bad enough when third parties do it, but when the application
frameworks do it, that can cause serious inconsistency. I mean,
Carbon and Cocoa are on parallel development tracks with different
developers, but they're both trying to conform to the same HIG,
right? This makes inconsistencies stand out even more, because every
time one team deviates from the HIG, that's one more thing users can
notice and say "oh look, Carbon apps do this wrong" or "Cocoa apps
don't do such-and-such like a standard Mac app does." We've all heard
it before, right? :)
Actually, this kind of reminds me of how many controls still behave
differently between Carbon and Cocoa--just as one example that I have
handy, try holding the mouse button down and scrubbing over the tabs
in a tab control. In Carbon it behaves like a button (only the tab
you originally clicked will receive clicks) but in Cocoa it lets you
scrub between all the tabs with the button held down. (rdar://
2778946 ... filed in September 2001, still unfixed!) I don't have the
HIG in front of me so I am not certain which way is more "correct,"
but I suspect the HIG doesn't leave the question unanswered. However,
it seems like sometimes Engineering implements what they think the
standard SHOULD be, not what it says.
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