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Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"
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Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"


  • Subject: Re: "untitled" vs "Untitled"
  • From: John Stiles <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:43:17 -0700

On Jul 10, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Gregory Weston wrote:

On Jul 10, 2005, at 3:02 PM, John Stiles wrote:


Maybe Engineering disagrees internally with the HIG in some places.
That's natural. But until the HIG is actually changed, isn't it
Engineering's job to follow it to the letter?


Well, actually, no. It's not. Guidelines are not written to be followed to the letter. They're intended to convey what should be a standard gestalt of behavior and appearance unless there's a compelling reason to deviate. It's been a while since I've read the HIG but that distinction used to be made quite clearly in them. Apple has been providing applications that fail to adhere to the HIG "to the letter" since January 1984.

In the context I was writing my statement, "engineering" meant "the developers at Apple who are writing Carbon and Cocoa." Applications may decide to deviate from the HIG in cases where it makes sense, sure. But it's hard to come up with a case where the framework itself (Cocoa) should violate the rules that specify how the framework should operate (the HIG). And in this case it's very clear that there's no compelling justification to violate the HIG, except that some engineers think it's aesthetically displeasing. Frankly, that's not a good justification for violating any standard IMO.


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