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Re: Handling open as a result of spotlight search
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Re: Handling open as a result of spotlight search


  • Subject: Re: Handling open as a result of spotlight search
  • From: Ondra Cada <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 03:19:31 +0200

Karl,

Well... the issue IMHO is not worth arguing over I guess, so... do please not take my opinion below too seriously. Just give it a benefit of doubt: might there *perhaps* be something to it?

On 6.5.2005, at 2:43, The Karl Adam wrote:

First, let me emphasize I consider the fact that the search term is in the Find pasteboard, being so immediately available for search, just *great*. There is no argument at all that not having it would be, well, dumb. On the other hand, since we *do* have it... well, if you want to spend some time in a completely unproductive way, read on :))

This is one of those "little things" that seperates a good Mac OS X citizen from the piles of software that are merely acceptable or good enough. If you feel that that the convenience that implementing this provides is too little for the "effort" involved in supporting it,

Nope. The thing is, I do not consider it a convenience at all. Myself, I consider it an unnecessary and often counter-productive show-off.


Reasons? Plain: in my experience of many years of using indexing tools -- beginning with the Digital Librarian which used to be great and alas was trashed by Apple when they bought NeXTStep -- much more often I want "all documents containing 'weirdo'" than "all 'weirdo' occurrences", if you can see the difference.

And, just again, if the latter happens to be what I really want, I have to put my fingers at Commad-g anyway, since the probability it would be the second or later hit is considerable. Therefore, the "inconvenience" of having to press the Command-g for the first occurrence is completely negligible.

On the other hand, the advantage to see immediately the document beginning -- which often tends to give more information about the document and a better indication whether this actually is what I want than the actual search term occurrence -- is much more important.

Note: selecting (or emphasizing a different way) all the occurrences of the search string is good IMHO, as I've said originally ("if you want to perform a more sophisticated action", or something like that I wrote). What is in my personal opinion wrong is just to perform plain "Find Next".

then we obviously disagree as far as following the HI guidelines, and User Interface in general.

The thing is, HIG can be wrong, and sometimes indeed is.

It can be proven left-side sliders are (for left-to-right scripts) better than right-side ones. What about tear-off menus: why did they vanish? What about the pop-up main menu wherever the mouse is (would be even more important on today's 30" vast displays than it used to be before), or a dock which keeps icons at their places allowing you to learn to click at the very same point each time you wanna to launch TextEdit? Do you really think that not to be able to re-size a window by any edge is reasonable, despite what HIG may tell us? Come on.

Add the fact Apple does not conform to HIG themselves whenever they consider it reasonable (an excellent example is the selection which kind of windows should use brushed metal look).

I am very positive it's much better to use a reason and judgement. Of course, if they agree with the HIG, the better. And I do fully accept the argument "better consistent and somewhat wrong than excellent but vastly inconsistent"; just there's the other side which says "better to be slightly inconsistent and considerably better, than to be consistent and wrong both".

'Nuff said, I guess :)
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Ondra Čada
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